zombieslayer
12 years ago
Play - I'm sure 🇦🇷 loves the guy, but last time the Packers saw him, he failed a physical.

What is left of Cliffy? Hey, I love the guy too. He's a future Packers Hall of Famer fo shizzle, but 2012, does he have a working back? Working knees? We don't know this.
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play2win
12 years ago

Ahhh.. waiting for the first mention of our QB trying to play GM.. that was all the rage a couple years ago. [grin1]


Oh Snap. [aiee]

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



It already happened last year with James Jones.

Snap. [grin1]

BTW, I saw ol' Cliffy lose a step too, and of course he would have to pass a physical. Who knows? Maybe he is in better shape than when he last played for us. If he is, I hope Ted signs him as a quality back-up LT.

I keep forgetting to qualify my way out comments...
Pack93z
12 years ago
Alright Foster... you want feedback. Here she goes.

First.. if we are talking about depth.. yeah, we are not deep and that is a concern more on the edges than in the interior. I think inside, we could survive a short term injury adequately and maybe even a long term. If Sherrod is close and can be ready post the PUP time, that balances out things greatly.. if he suffers any setbacks, that is when I could see the Packers adding depth, proven depth at the edges. Clifton would have to settle for a reasonable contract to be an answer, somehow I think with the risks (Health Risks) he has to take a reasonable contract might not make sense to him personally.

Now, the starting five, I think this is the best complete unit we have had to date under Ted. Lets break that down.

RT - Bulaga - My opinion a pro bowl quality right tackle in this league.. meaning any given year he would be worthy of selection. Obviously I think he has settled into that spot well and should have that solved for the balance of the decade.

RG - Sitton - Another guy that could turn in a Pro Bowl effort at any time, he has the talent to do so. Balanced blocker, seems like a glue type guy that may just be the leader of the unit.

C- Saturday - Smart player than isn't all that impressive but gets the job done week in and out. Reminds me of Frankie Winters.. not a physical specium but just seems to get it done year in and out. Should give the Packers at least this season to line up the replacement.. EDS might be that replacement long term. My opinion is that he will take over the line calls just fine and will not be a tremendous drop off from Wells.

LG - Lang - I think with another year of seasoning, I think this guy should become the best overall lineman on the team. Thought that when we drafted him, took longer than I thought to arrive, but I think he is on the doorstep.

RT - NewHouse - Ahhh, the turrible  left tackle. In reality, I think the guy played decently last season on the edge, considering that it really was the first year that he was able to focus on the position. He has the physical tools to do so, his slide has improved and his initial punch has been good from day one. He is not Chad Clifton in pass protection (Chad on natural turf that is), but what he gives up in pass protection he gains in run blocking. Chad simply wasn't a good run blocker... so I think Newhouse closes the gap in pass protection this season and gives us more week in and out in the run game. Net gain in my opion.

Although, I think EDS might have had his worst preseason to date for the preseason games, but to be fair, we are not afforded if all issues were his or "green" mates. Based on past performance and growth, he should provide solid depth inside.

Barclay is an unknown, but we had to cover the gap until we either know if Sherrod will be ready this season or not. Again, if Sherrod isn't going to be ready, we will see Ted and Company either get some veteran depth at the edge or add another option in case Barclay can't handle it.

So no, I don't think our line sucks.. actually the starting five might be the best of the Ted era. Depth, there I will say it is an unknown and very well might suck in a worst case scenario.
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Pack93z
12 years ago



I keep forgetting to qualify my way out comments...

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Yes.. depends on the day and the mood of the board. Sometimes they frame them within your history of a poster.. and sometimes you will literally get called upon for the post itself.

ZS... just quelling the possible storm in advance. 🤔

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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Ahhh.. waiting for the first mention of our QB trying to play GM.. that was all the rage a couple years ago. [grin1]


Oh Snap. [aiee]

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




Aaron Rodgers was questioned about the possibility of Chad Clifton returning to the Packers. Your mention of a QB trying to play GM should be the only, because nothing Rodgers said indicates as such.

I don’t know if that’s going to happen, ’Cliffy’ had a tryout with the Patriots; he has some interest from another team that’s really thinking about bring him in as early as today or tomorrow, from what I am hearing. If that doesn’t happen I think (the Packers) are going to have to consider a guy like that. Whether or not you act on it, he has to be in the consideration. He has a history and knows the offense and always has been an exceptional pass blocker.

Aaron Rodgers wrote:


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Pack93z
12 years ago

Aaron Rodgers was questioned about the possibility of Chad Clifton returning to the Packers. Your mention of a QB trying to play GM should be the only, because nothing Rodgers said indicates as such.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It is a freaking joke.. settle. ;)


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play2win
12 years ago

Alright Foster... you want feedback. Here she goes.

First.. if we are talking about depth.. yeah, we are not deep and that is a concern more on the edges than in the interior. I think inside, we could survive a short term injury adequately and maybe even a long term. If Sherrod is close and can be ready post the PUP time, that balances out things greatly.. if he suffers any setbacks, that is when I could see the Packers adding depth, proven depth at the edges. Clifton would have to settle for a reasonable contract to be an answer, somehow I think with the risks he has to take a reasonable contract might not make sense to him personally.

Now, the starting five, I think this is the best complete unit we have had to date. Lets break that down.

RT - Bulaga - My opinion a pro bowl quality right tackle in this league.. meaning any given year he would be worthy of selection. Obviously I think he has settled into that spot well and should have that solved for the balance of the decade.

RG - Sitton - Another guy that could turn in a Pro Bowl effort at any time, he has the talent to do so. Balanced blocker, seems like a glue type guy that may just be the leader of the unit.

C- Saturday - Smart player than isn't all that impressive but gets the job done week in and out. Reminds me of Frankie Winters.. not a physical specium but just seems to get it done year in and out. Should give the Packers at least this season to line up the replacement.. EDS might be that replacement long term. My opinion is that he will take over the line calls just fine and will not be a tremendous drop off from Wells.

LG - Lang - I think with another year of seasoning, I think this guy should become the best overall lineman on the team. Thought that when we drafted him, took longer than I thought to arrive, but I think he is on the doorstep.

RT - NewHouse - Ahhh, the turrible  left tackle. In reality, I think the guy played decently last season on the edge, considering that it really was the first year that he was able to focus on the position. He has the physical tools to do so, his slide has improved and his initial punch has been good from day one. He is not Chad Clifton in pass protection (Chad on natural turf that is), but what he gives up in pass protection he gains in run blocking. Chad simply wasn't a good run blocker... so I think Newhouse closes the gap in pass protection this season and gives us more week in and out in the run game. Net gain in my opion.

Although, I think EDS might have had his worst preseason to date for the preseason games, but to be fair, we are not afforded if all issues were his or "green" mates. Based on past performance and growth, he should provide solid depth inside.

Barclay is an unknown, but we had to cover the gap until we either know if Sherrod will be ready this season or not. Again, if Sherrod isn't going to be ready, we will see Ted and Company either get some veteran depth at the edge or add another option in case Barclay can't handle it.

So no, I don't think our line sucks.. actually the starting five might be the best of the Ted era. Depth, there I will say it is an unknown and very well might suck in a worst case scenario.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I totally agree on Newhouse. To me, the guy has played very well, and should only improve.

And I hate the title of this thread, as I don't agree with the notion at all.
zombieslayer
12 years ago

I totally agree on Newhouse. To me, the guy has played very well, and should only improve.

And I hate the title of this thread, as I don't agree with the notion at all.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Well, he was absolutely correct 2 years ago.

The 2012 complaint is "Our OL needs depth, badly!"
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play2win
12 years ago
It is sounding like they are taking a more out-of-the-box approach to OL depth, trusting players to the PS as opposed to dedicating more to the 53. It is high stakes poker to me. I don't care for this approach, but I can see what they are doing and I hope it works. I mean, come on... we NEED all those RBs. Clearly, we don't need to give Raji a break. That allows us to keep all those TEs...

Yeah, high stakes poker with OL depth - on that I can agree. But, McCarthy said they only keep 7 on the 46, so I guess it can work. I do think their starting 5 on the OL is good.
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Well, he was absolutely correct 2 years ago.

The 2012 complaint is "Our OL needs depth, badly!"

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



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