Pack93z
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12 years ago
I think this concurs with the reports in camp that he is trying to digest it all, speed of the game, being place under the extra pressure of learning to make the calls on the field.. I think the kid is still over thinking the game at this point.

IMO, much like Hawk does to much of.. thinking instead of just letting your instincts, the instincts that helped get you here, take over more until it all comes together.

My opinion is a thinking player makes less impact than a player that trusts what he sees and attacks on defense. You might be wrong.. but you are going all out right now. Thinking causes hesitation.. so while you might not make a mistake.. more than likely you are going to be late.

It is slightly different for an offensive player and maybe a safety where they have a bit more time to take information, process it cognitively and then react to it.

I will take an instinctive player over a smart player in the box on defense.. almost every time. You hit gold when you they get the game down to a point where they do both.


Terrell Manning had waited all of training camp for this moment. 

After checking out of the initial read, the sea of offensive linemen had parted. A wide-open lane to Cincinnati quarterback Bruce Gradowski was the only thing in Manning’s line of vision. The Green Bay Packers rookie inside linebacker had the perfect opportunity to finally get noticed.

Lost in the final charge toward Gradkowski, Manning flip-flopped about whether to go for the sack or try to defend a possible pass. His body expression mirrored the conflicting battle in his mind.

While Manning’s eventual pressure up the middle forced Gradkowski to discard the ball, he also learned an important lesson – don’t hesitate.

A fifth-round pick out of North Carolina State, Manning realizes his first training camp has been more silence than spark at times, but Thursday’s game was a step in the right direction. It was a jolt of confidence the 22-year-old linebacker sorely needed entering the final week of camp.

“It was the first play I had the opportunity to make, really,” Manning said. “It was kind of like I don’t want him to throw the ball, but if he throws it I want to be able to make an impact. Great coaching point for me because it was a great time to make a play, but at the same time I realize just need to go at him and make the play, and let our coverage guys do their part.”


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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
Manning seems to be one of those players that needs a little more time to put it all together. Hopefully, he gets that time. I think he will be a good player, maybe even an impact player. I have no evidence of this other than what I've read.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

Manning seems to be one of those players that needs a little more time to put it all together. Hopefully, he gets that time. I think he will be a good player, maybe even an impact player. I have no evidence of this other than what I've read.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



Yeah, this suggests to me that the dude has a ceiling, it's not just that he sucks.
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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
Everybody has a ceiling. I think what you meant was that he has a low ceiling? That could be, but I don't know why that would be true, it just takes more time. Bishop was much that way, the reason he wasn't on the field sooner was the coaches didn't have confience in him being assignment sure.
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
DarkaneRules
12 years ago
He's a rookie. Even pros hesitate from time to time. He's smart and physical. That's what matters.
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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
I'm looking forward to seeing him this game as it looked like he made noticeable strides from the first two games. Hopefully, he will make even more this game. Any defensive improvement from any player is most welcome.
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
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