Zero2Cool
12 years ago

We’ve got a lot of confidence in Graham. We’re not worried about him. They kept their first-team defense in for the majority of the first half, I think the whole first half, and I know what that’s like at times.

The fourth preseason game my first three years as a backup, we played Tennessee, and Tennessee likes to play their starters the majority of the game. And that’s difficult, especially when you’re playing against Jevon Kearse and Kyle Vanden Bosch and Keith Bulluck and [Cortland] Finnegan and those guys. It’s difficult.

The Browns stars on defense should be able to have a favorable matchup against 2s and 3s on our team, although we’d like to probably move the ball a little bit more effectively. I obviously care about Graham and want him to do well.

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Porforis
12 years ago
Plagarism! PLAGARISM!

Sometimes I wonder if ARod is really as awesome of a person as he comes off as, or if it's mostly just BS. I believe the prior, but he is pretty damn selfless.
PackerTraxx
12 years ago
So why not let him play a series or two with the ones?
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Porforis
12 years ago

So why not let him play a series or two with the ones?

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



I do think that would be a good idea... I heard people on WTMJ this morning talking about the first team offense maybe playing the whole first half next game, but I think that's kind of ridiculous. Final game of the preseason? Absolutely. But Harrell absolutely should have at least a couple series with the first team offense.

The big downside is that the Packers need to make hard decisions when it comes to their WR corps, if you keep Jordy and Jones (and Jennings if he's back) in there, you don't get to evaluate anybody on the bubble. To be fair, I think that unless Cobb has another couple of poor games there's zero questions about who will make the team, but it may help determine who we try to stash on the practice squad and who we let walk.
Pack93z
12 years ago

I do think that would be a good idea... I heard people on WTMJ this morning talking about the first team offense maybe playing the whole first half next game, but I think that's kind of ridiculous. Final game of the preseason? Absolutely. But Harrell absolutely should have at least a couple series with the first team offense.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



If memory serves correctly under Ted and MM.. week 3 is generally the heavy week for the starters.. then a short week in the final week giving the bubble players their last shots at making the team and keeping the front line player fresh for opening week.

I expect the starters to play close to the full half.. and maybe Harrell to get his shot with the ones and twos.

I also expect Coleman to play heavy minutes in week 4.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
12 years ago
Packers usually play a drive or two into the 3rd quarter of the 3rd preseason game.

I wouldn't be surprised of B.J. Coleman doesn't play much in game four so when they can cut him, no one has much tape on him nor reason to take him.
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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
Would have liked to see BJ get more than one play last night!!!!! LOL
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porky88
12 years ago
He was awful last night. I understand the offensive line issues, but he's holding the ball, and the lack of decisiveness worries me. I continue to believe in him as somebody that can make throws between the hashes. Can he drive the ball outside of the hashes? I've yet to see him do that and that’s a stable part of this passing offense. He needs to take a step forward next week otherwise Colt McCoy makes sense.
hardrocker950
12 years ago
Harrell seems like he COULD become a reliable backup - BUT it is hard to see his potential with the 2nd and 3rd team. Many of us got to see him play behind a line that leaves much to be desired, and I have a hard time evaluating him in such circumstances.

He did appear to settle in a bit more when the OL was blocking well. I did see some nice passes at times, but I was also scratching my head on a few as well. I mostly question his decision making, especially under pressure. There were moments when I feel he should have thrown the ball to the sidelines, an incompletion is better than risking a likely sack or turnover. To be fair, it is hard to blame him for his receiver falling - resulting in a turnover.

I think they need to give him a few reps with the 1st team to get a realistic idea of what he can do. Although some feel this would be a bad idea (more chance for injured starters, less time for guys working for a job) - I don't see any other way to evaluate how well he fits in with this team.

I am split on when it comes to this QB. I have seen good, bad, and WTF from him so far. He shows potential, but very inconsistant in doing so. McCoy could be an option if Harrell can't get it done - I think he would do alright in this offense.
DakotaT
12 years ago
I don't think Harrell has the arm strength to be a NFL quarterback. He may develop into a fine backup, but isn't arm strength probably the #2 attribute behind intelligence for a quarterback to have? BJ Coleman should pass him up by next year.
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