Curly Lambeau "schism" · PACKERSHOME

Wade
Veteran Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

Lambeau went to the Chicago Cardinals after losing an internal power struggle. I read about this once, but I can't remember any more details other than it wasn't a particularly amicable parting of the ways.

I had never thought of the parallel before but it might be worth exploring.

After all, who in the overall scheme of Packer things is more iconic than the guy who the best stadium in the history of sport is named after?

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Rockmolder
Honored Member

12 years ago

Originally Posted by: Wade

I read about that, as well.

However, Lambeau's decision to purchase the Rockwood Lodge north of Green Bay at a price of $25,000 to make it the Packers' training facility didn't go over well with members of the executive committee and contributed to an internal power struggle that helped end his 31-year tenure with the team.

As you can see, his record was worsening quite badly, as well, though, starting with the retirement of Don Hutson, it seems.

Anyway, the Chicago/St. Louis/Arizona Cardinals aren't the Vikings, though. Even at that point we had a more serious rivalry going on with the Decatur/Chicago Staleys/Bears.

Times have changed and these things move in a way higher speed than they did back then. Regardless of how long it took for Lambeau to get honored, Favre will get there in a couple of years.

Although he might have to wait 'till he's passed away to get a facility named after him.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

12 years ago

I am fine with waiting as long with Favre.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

wpr
Preferred Member

12 years ago

I read about that, as well.

As you can see, his record was worsening quite badly, as well, though, starting with the retirement of Don Hutson, it seems.

Anyway, the Chicago/St. Louis/Arizona Cardinals aren't the Vikings, though. Even at that point we had a more serious rivalry going on with the Decatur/Chicago Staleys/Bears.

Times have changed and these things move in a way higher speed than they did back then. Regardless of how long it took for Lambeau to get honored, Favre will get there in a couple of years.

Although he might have to wait 'till he's passed away to get a facility named after him.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

yep. you can put up with an awful lot when your HC is winning you championships. When he and the team are only around .500 or worse for 4 years or so it is time to move on.
Too bad it took 10 years and 5 other HC before they landed Vince. Of course other franchises had longer dry spells between great coaches and championship teams.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

I think some are believing the Chicago Cardinals are the Chicago Bears now, but it's the Arizona Cardinals. And those Cardinals were actually rivals of the Bears.

wpr
Preferred Member

12 years ago

I think some are believing the Chicago Cardinals are the Chicago Bears now, but it's the Arizona Cardinals. And those Cardinals were actually rivals of the Bears.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

No doubt some do.

Wade
Veteran Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

I think some are believing the Chicago Cardinals are the Chicago Bears now, but it's the Arizona Cardinals. And those Cardinals were actually rivals of the Bears.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yes, but it doesn't matter because...both teams still suck!

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

Yes, but it doesn't matter because...both teams still suck!

Originally Posted by: wade

True, but I think some who compare Lambeau to Favre are assuming their is a connection to the Bears rivalry, when there isn't. I've read a few times people saying "why did Packers fans forgive Lambeau for going to a rival, but can't forgive Favre?"

Wade
Veteran Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

In regard to that question, I am tempted to say "because the magnitude pace of rivalry was a lot slower back then." The NFL, and sports in general, were not the obsession they are today. And at most, one had a daily newspaper reporting on what was happening, not the 24/7/365 coverage we have today. My guess is that in Green Bay, the rivalry may have been as powerful, but in the parts of Wisconsin that didn't get a Green Bay newspaper, it just wasn't that big of a deal.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

#10

The Packers didn't really have a fierce rivalry with the Chicago Cardinals. They did play quite a bit if I recall accurately of what I read, but it wasn't a ... spit on the guy you just tackled rivalry that the Packers Bears grew to be.

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