PackerTraxx
13 years ago

Inside linebackers are only as good as the line in front of them, and we can all agree, that line was bad last year.

That said, I expect Manning to make Hawk expendable.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



That's why I expect Hawk to look better this year. If Manning replaces him I just hope it's an up grade, not just money. I almost always hate to see a Packer go, but I always welcome an upgrade.
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Packers_Finland
13 years ago

Inside linebackers are only as good as the line in front of them, and we can all agree, that line was bad last year.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Please tell that to London Fletcher, who, despite having a terrible D-Line ahead of him year after year plays at a Pro Bowl level.

Inside backers need to make plays even when the DL has an off day.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

Please tell that to London Fletcher, who, despite having a terrible D-Line ahead of him year after year plays at a Pro Bowl level.

Inside backers need to make plays even when the DL has an off day.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland 



What Dakota means is that in a 3-4, the DL is meant to eat up blockers so the LBs can make the plays.
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Packers_Finland
13 years ago

What Dakota means is that in a 3-4, the DL is meant to eat up blockers so the LBs can make the plays.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



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What I'm saying though is that good backers make plays even if the DL isn't great.
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13 years ago

It's pretty clear to me that the general consensus of this thread is that Manning will likely rarely see the field in 2012 and Hawk will be the starter. I'm not sure how much hype that is. Manning has much better potential than someone like Elmore, but that doesn't really mean anything unless it turns into production. It's mostly been a discussion of potential and hopes. I don't expect him starting at all this season, or even being the first one off the bench, necessary.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



I don't expect him to start this year, either. I think the reason this sort of consensus develops with whatever ILB is drafted (or comes in off the street), is that every year an awful lot of people want an upgrade over Hawk.

Heck there were a couple moments last year that I thought Robert Francois was our best ILB, and I didn't expect him to make the opening season roster.
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DoddPower
13 years ago

Heck there were a couple moments last year that I thought Robert Francois was our best ILB, and I didn't expect him to make the opening season roster.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



hah! I was questioning that as well, and before that I was wondering why he was even on the team. I'm not sure if that's a reflection of his talent or the lack of talent in front of him. Unfortunately, I think it may be the latter.

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13 years ago

hah! I was questioning that as well, and before that I was wondering why he was even on the team. I'm not sure if that's a reflection of his talent or the lack of talent in front of him. Unfortunately, I think it may be the latter.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



I guess that shows us that the level of ability between someone who doesn't make a team and the journeyman player is usually pretty small. The level of ability between the journeyman and starter is equally pretty small.

Nearly any one can have a once in a lifetime game. Nearly anyone can string together several games in a row. When the talent is about the same it usually comes down to the intangibles that are so hard to measure.

HoFers usually play at a whole other level and they do so on a consistent basis.
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