play2win
13 years ago

Compare Perry's numbers to Ingram, Upshaw and Coples:

A two-year starter for the Trojans, Perry produced 103 tackles, 29.5 tackles for loss, and 21.5 sacks over the course of his career; his best statistical season came in 2011 during his junior year when he made 54 tackles, 13 tackles for loss, and 9.5 sacks.


Ingram produced 48 tackles, 15 tackles for loss, 10 sacks, two pass breakups, two interceptions, and three touchdowns (one rushing, two return); in a situational pass rusher role early in his career, Melvin concluded his four years at South Carolina having produced 109 tackles, 30.5 tackles for loss, and 21 sacks.


Coples finished his career at Chapel Hill having produced 144 tackles, 40.5 tackles for loss, and 24 sacks; his most productive season came as a junior in 2010 when he tallied 59 tackles, 15.5 tackles for loss, and 10 sacks.


Upshaw finished his career in Tuscaloosa having produced 141 tackles, 36.5 tackles for loss, 17.5 sacks, six forced fumbles, four pass breakups, and one interception; his best statistical season came his senior year in 2011 when he tallied 52 tackles, 18 tackles for loss, 9.5 sacks, two forced fumbles, and his lone interception.

Originally Posted by: Arrigo 



Thanks Arrigo. I would venture to say he did that against better competition than both Coples and Ingram. I'm glad we got one piece of the puzzle to make us better.
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13 years ago


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04/26/2012 - ROB RANG'S TOP 50 PLAYERS OF THE 2012 NFL DRAFT: 28. Nick Perry, DE, Southern Cal*: As had been anticipated, Perry enjoyed one of the Combine's most impressive all-around performances showing speed (4.64), strength (35 reps) and explosiveness (38.5"). He led the Pac-12 with 9.5 sacks in 2011 and may just be scratching the surface of his potential. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com

Overview

Perry opted for the draft after being named USC's Defensive Lineman of the Year following a 2011 season in which he led the Pac-12 in sacks with 9.5. Considered a 'tweener who could be an outside linebacker or defensive end, Perry wants to play the latter. So he added more than 10 pounds of lean muscle since the season ended to convince scouts. Still, many believe he projects as a stand-up linebacker in a 3-4 defense, despite not showing instincts to play in the open. His natural athleticism was on display at the Combine, where he had an unofficial 10-yard time of 1.57 seconds and showed tremendous explosion with a 38.5-inch vertical jump, a mark worthy of a good wide receiver. Scouts would also like to see more hustle on plays away and/or better conditioning as he seems to fatigue in the fourth quarter. Perry was a prized recruit after he led Detroit's King High School to a 14-0 season and a 2007 state championship with 147 tackles and 36 sacks, a Michigan prep record.

Analysis
Pass rush: Has very good first step quickness and does a nice job in space. Has the footwork, body control and fluidity to quickly change directions. Does a nice job elevating and getting his hands up to knock down passes at the line of scrimmage. Works hard to collapse the pocket with a relentless motor. Brings aggressive playing style on every snap and doesn't quit. Lacks elite size and length -- undersized and can be swallowed by larger blockers. Run defense: Read/reacts quickly with good awareness and recognition skills to chase down the play from different angles. Understands leverage and does a nice job staying balanced, getting lower than blockers and underneath their pads, usually attracting holding penalties. Explosion: A quick, flexible
athlete with sharp burst off the snap. Shows the natural bend and coordination to dip his shoulder and consistently win the edge. Doesn't always time-up his explosion and isn't a sudden pass rusher. Strength: Uses his powerful upper body and hands to force his way into the pocket. Does a nice job swatting blocker's hands/arms with his violent, active hands. Struggles to disengage at the point of attack and will never be the strongest on the field -- functional strength is a question mark. Tackling: Plays smart and disciplined, staying at home and restraining from biting on fakes -- listens and applies coaching. Good hand strength to secure tackles. Lacks ideal arm length, but works hard to wrap and tackle through the ballcarrier. Intangibles: Projects best as a stand up linebacker in a 3-4 scheme at the next level, but doesn't have much experience in this area and there could be a learning curve -- can he play with his hand on the ground at the next level? Lined up in both the two and three-point stance in college. Has good production on his resume, capping off his career with a strong junior season, leading the Pac-12 in sacks. Has questionable instincts when asked to drop in coverage. Appears fatigued late in games and needs to show better conditioning. -- Dane Brugler

CBS  wrote:




Understands leverage and does a nice job staying balanced, getting lower than blockers and underneath their pads.

Yea! good pad level! :-"
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I don't know anything about Nick Perry, other than his jersey number for the Packers will be 53. I was pulling for Courtney Upshaw to be selected.




He will not be able to cover anyone. My prediction.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



The OLB in 3 - 4 is primarily charged with rushing the passer, thus covering "anyone" is not much of a concern. And if he does his job well enough, even Ahmad Carroll could look like an average cover corner.

Everything starts at the line of scrimmage for both offense and defense.

With that said, he ran a 40 yard dash at the combine at 4.5 while weighing 271 ... not bad.




I'm probably not (quite) as negative as Foster, but I'm not a great fan of the pick.

To my mind, Perry has some to offer, but he's mid- to late-second talent. If he was the best available at 28, they should have traded down. (And Tampa trading their 36 to Denver after the Packer's pick says there was an opportunity out there.)

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Denver picks higher in every round than the Packers, therefore, it's not certain there was an opportunity for the Packers to trade back. Perhaps the Buccaneers didn't want to trade back with a NFC team?
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13 years ago
Dudes.

Things don't always work out the way you want and there's no guarantees. But if Ted Thompson took him, there was a reason. And that is good enough for me. Godspeed, Perry. Get to those fuckin' QB's and give our corners a chance this year!

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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DakotaT
13 years ago
I'm beginning to think Perry was Ted's choice all along, because they spent a lot of time at USC. The McClellin thing was a smokescreen and the Bears bit on it. They should have taken the kid from Syracuse. This guy will be an immediate upgrade the position from the Triumpherant of Mediocrity that we had been throwing out there the last three years. I bet Kevin Greene is a happy man right now.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I'm beginning to think Perry was Ted's choice all along, because they spent a lot of time at USC. The McClellin thing was a smokescreen and the Bears bit on it. They should have taken the kid from Syracuse. This guy will be an immediate upgrade the position from the Triumpherant of Mediocrity that we had been throwing out there the last three years. I bet Kevin Greene is a happy man right now.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I came back to this thread to mention the factor that some are not saying when discussing his transition from DE to OLB. Kevin Greene. I think Kevin Greene will be the best tool for Perry an his transition.
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13 years ago

I came back to this thread to mention the factor that some are not saying when discussing his transition from DE to OLB. Kevin Greene. I think Kevin Greene will be the best tool for Perry an his transition.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I am sure Greene didn't sleep all nite.
The drawback for Perry is that his hair is too short to be an effective OLB in GB.
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13 years ago

I am sure Greene didn't sleep all nite.
The drawback for Perry is that his hair is too short to be an effective OLB in GB.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



How'd that long hair work for A.J. Hawk? ;-)


Reading his comments, he doesn't sound thrilled about being moved to OLB.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
Perry is athletically superior to all the rest and on par with Clay. It's Greene's job to get him ready, and I think we will be very happy.
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13 years ago
edited the first post and the title.
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