Green Bay Packers’s GM Ted Thompson’s Draft Methodology· Page 2

dhazer
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#11

My prediction for the 1st 2 rounds are Konz and James running back from Oregon 🙂

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

12 years ago

#12

I think you nailed it!!!!!

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#13

I'm curious if Barron is available whether Ted takes him. Potential Safety need and is highly rated but may slip to us due to limited teams who need a Safety who doesn't also have other pressing needs as well.

Arrigo
Registered Topic Starter

12 years ago

#14

I'm curious if Barron is available whether Ted takes him. Potential Safety need and is highly rated but may slip to us due to limited teams who need a Safety who doesn't also have other pressing needs as well.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

FWIW, I think he does, IF he is available, but I hear he is going to be a Top 15 pick. That could be a rumor, but that is what I am getting from multiple people.

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TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#15

FWIW, I think he does, IF he is available, but I hear he is going to be a Top 15 pick. That could be a rumor, but that is what I am getting from multiple people.

Originally Posted by: Arrigo

Interesting the highest I've seen him mocked is 14 to the Cowboys. Most others have been mid-20s. I've even seen him in the first couple of picks of the second round, but I'm thinking there is no way in hell that happens as now there is speculation that Harrison Smith might sneak into the first round.

wpr
Preferred Member

12 years ago

#16

I just assumed that when someone says BPA they mean based on needs and not strict BPA. That goes for any team not just the Packers.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded

Yeah whenever I say BPA that is what I mean. I just assume that people understand it is based on need.

That said if someone really stands out at a relatively moderate need I can see Uncle Teddy picking the player because his value is so high.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

#17

If the Packers perceive a player to be a starter at OLB and the only other starter on the board is at RB ... the best player available to them would be the OLB.

BPA doesn't mean Mel Kiper Jr BPA, it means BPA for the team. That's how and why the Packers (and most other teams) can say they don't draft on need, but rather they always take the best player available. And no one can argue it.

wpr
Preferred Member

12 years ago

#18

Trxx- Rodgers selection wasn't simply BPA regardless of need. GB certainly had a need at QB. Even without Ol No 4's on and off / hokey pokey retirement dance. It takes at least 3 years to develop a QB. Picking Rodgers in 2005 meant he would sit and learn for at least a couple of years before he would have to lead the team. While it was not a white hot need for 2005 it was a dire need for the franchise's future.That is a mark of what makes Ted such a good GM. Get the players you need for the future now and develop them. Don't wait until the need is critical and then throw these college kids out there and expect them to excel. Give them some time to learn. The NFL is a lot tougher than college. Even the SEC little alone the other BCS conferences or mid major programs.

Of course nothing is cast in stone with Uncle Teddy. If the following draft is deeper at a position Ted appears to be willing to wait for the richer harvest. Ted thinks about the health of the franchise as a whole and not the individual seasons.

wpr
Preferred Member

12 years ago

#19

oh it was a good read Arrigo.

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

12 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: wpr

I never said the pick was regardless of need I said there were more pressing needs and there were. In retrospect, I think most of the posts in regards to BPA are really saying the same thing in a different way and it's not communicating. So BPA vs need really boils down to a combination of something like talent and need as it relates to the team, equalling the value to the team(BPA)?

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