NFL-Talk.net Mock Draft V.2012· Page 3

wpr
Preferred Member

13 years ago

It might work out that way, but I hope we are more fortunate with who is available when we pick. Vinny Curry I particularly don't much like, too small for DE(266) , too slow for LB(4.9-40) and has some bagage. Watch Ted Thompson pick him and prove me wrong. LOL

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx

well that would be a good thing wouldn't it? If he plays at a high level it is good fro the Packers and for the fans so you will not care at all.

GermanGilbert
Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#22

It might work out that way, but I hope we are more fortunate with who is available when we pick. Vinny Curry I particularly don't much like, too small for DE(266) , too slow for LB(4.9-40) and has some bagage. Watch Ted Thompson pick him and prove me wrong. LOL

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx

Curry ran a 4.64 at his pro day, so the Combine time doesn't worry me.

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Wade
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#23

I still think they should try to trade down a few spots. I don't have a problem with Konz, but I think he's more early 2nd quality than late 1st. Same with Mercilus, Curry, Worthy, Branch, Hightower, and any others I've seemed named for #28. I see many, if not most of those being available at 33-40ish.

McClellin's my favorite of all the ones that I've been mentioned in various places for the Pack in round 1, but I think he's a reach at 28, too. Trade out of the first round, Ted!

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play2win
Senior Member

13 years ago

#24

I'd be a whole lot happier with DE Mercilus, OLB Lewis and DE Crawford without trade in 1, 2 and 3.

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

13 years ago

#25

Curry ran a 4.64 at his pro day, so the Combine time doesn't worry me.

Originally Posted by: GermanGilbert

That changes everything, there's a huge difference between 4.9 and 4.64. Heck...there's a huge difference between 4.9 and 4.8 for a LB who has to play in space. Actually, I'm glad to hear that. If they are satisfied they can correct and/or live with his bagage it's another prospect.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

GermanGilbert
Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#26

I'd be a whole lot happier with DE Mercilus, OLB Lewis and DE Crawford without trade in 1, 2 and 3.

Originally Posted by: play2win

Mercilus AND Lewis in rounds 1 and 2? To be honest, that would scare me a bit as it would indicate that Ted Thompson doesn't trust in either of them.

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PackerTraxx
Senior Member

13 years ago

#27

I'm hoping we can get a DE in rd 1 because I think we have a better chance of getting an OLB to fill our needs in rd 2 than to get a DE to do so.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

Rockmolder
Honored Member

13 years ago

#28

Mercilus AND Lewis in rounds 1 and 2? To be honest, that would scare me a bit as it would indicate that Ted Thompson doesn't trust in either of them.

Originally Posted by: GermanGilbert

At a lot of positions, I would agree, but I don't mind having a solid rotation at a position like DE/OLB. The Steelers recently drafted Worilds in the 2nd round with Woodley and Harrison on the roster. The current SB champions took JPP while having Tuck, Umenyiora and Kiwanuka on the roster.

Heck, even one of our best pass rushing defenses in recent history had a 3-deep starting caliber rotation with Kampman, Jenkins and KGB.

We're in such dire need of something opposite of Clay that you could pretty much wait 'till day 3 and still find an immediate starter.

That's not a positive.

play2win
Senior Member

13 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

I totally agree. I would be thrilled if all Ted did was nail DE, OLB and DT in this draft. Pick 12 of them at those three positions and see how our pass rush changes... Of course, that is an extreme view, one I wouldn't prefer. But, imagine, if it were to happen, it would be pretty frickin' wild. I do believe we are that close to repeating as SB champs. One big ass pass rush away. Even without a S pick...

Not what I want him to do necessarily, but it certainly would be a thrill to know we will be putting a lot of QBs on their backs this season. Those types of players front 7 do wonders for a secondary.

i just hope he really goes after those positions, and we need more than one DE and OLB each, for sure. Pick and Raji could use a blow too with a quality backup NT.

zombieslayer
Registered

13 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: play2win

I won't go that extreme, but I see what you're getting at. Yes, we were two players away (pass rushers) from winning it all and an elite pass rush could cover up a mediocre secondary.

So getting 2 OLBs and 2 DLs would be nice. Maybe even a total of 5 or 6 between those positions. But we do need help in other areas. I want at least 2 OL picks and of course, Ted will pick one WR. A RB who can block/catch would be nice too. And one or two DBs would be nice.

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