Pack93z
16 years ago
Foster.. not pinning the sacks on the line backers.. I got a little off topic.. more or less responding to my frustration of watching this staff remain static week after week as we are getting our asses handed to us on a regular basis.

Over the course of the last 5 months, I have become increasingly frustrated in the lack of growth in areas on this team.. watching Poppinga consistently overrun or take a bad angle.. watching Hawk play steady but non impact ball.. watching Barnett unable to pry himself off a block time after freaking time. Chillar is playing the best of that group period, developed elsewhere.. hmmm wonder if that is a factor?

Hawk flashed improvement early this season, then was injuried.. is he still.. but regardless we have added talented players to that corps only to seen them remain in a state of unpolished players..

Maybe I expect to much.. like the ability for the group to consistently cover a tight end.. like other teams seem to be able to do.. or knife a gap and plug a running lane consistently.. or once in a while get home on a blitz stunt...

I hammered the offensive line to death.. it is too early on a cold Friday to spout off endlessly on the lack of growth there.

I have been enamored with the growth from within talk and keeping our own.. but for that to be truly effective, you have to have growth across the entire roster for that premise to hold value... IMO.. there are areas that aren't growing..

On the sack numbers and pressure, at least there you can point to injuries and reduced roster numbers from last year and make an argument stick...
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
16 years ago
Pack--

Go take a little internet search/look at this kid.

If Brett holds serve, playoff-wise, I can dump my Center Wish and replace it with him, draft-order wise. We would still be getting the two best Guards in the country in my little fantasy-plan. (A whole bunch of OT's are going to go early--we go with my plan, we will get the cream of the crop in Guards, and can mix/match nicely on the o-line, imo)

My guy in my plan:

(God, I hate even writing this--- THANKS FOR NOTHING BUSTIN' YOU MF'ing twinkie eating injury plagued girly-man (venting, here)

Terrence Cody Defensive Tackle Alabama 6'4" 355 lbs 5.50 40

There is an assumption on my part that we get Cullen Jenkins back at full force in this little plan... I also need to emphasize that my plan also includes some FA aquisitions---this appears to be a MUCH better year for it than recent history, imo... FA aquisitions on Defense.

Reminder, my Guards are Duke Robinson of Oklahoma and Herman Johnson of LSU (56th reference)

The Center I am jettisoning is Alex Mack...Cal....hate to see him go...Bustin'...you are pissin' me off....
warhawk
16 years ago
I think Robinson is a viable option but I doubt Cody will be around. He will go pretty early.
I like two guys from Mississippi. Hardy at DE is going a little under the radar with a foot injury but he has a motor like Kampman and they have DT at 305lbs who runs an insane 4.95 forty.
Both of those guys could be around in the second round.
"The train is leaving the station."
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
So... I was expecting talk about Poppinga ...
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