Report: Packers in discussions with free agent Manny Lawson· Page 3

Packers_Finland
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13 years ago

Well if he has at least an average pass rush/run stop/pass coverage that's three different aspects that get upgraded from Walden.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded

Yes that's very true. I'm not against signing him by any means, I just think we could allocate our money a bit better, or if we sign him, draft a pass rush specialist.

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dhazer
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13 years ago

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Eagles | More details on DeMeco Ryans trade
Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:32:07 -0700

Updating a previous report, the Philadelphia Eagles will trade a third-round pick, and a fourth-round pick, to the Houston Texans for LB DeMeco Ryans and a third-round pick.

Damn Ted Thompson why can't he get steals like this

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Pack93z
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13 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: dhazer

I will agree that a 4th and swapping 3rds is a great value for that caliber of a player, he was struggling in the 3-4 and the Texans apparently thought it was a long term ill fit, so they moved on. I am sure the cap concerns there didn't help. Injury concerns probably played in as well.

So if Phillips didn't buy into him playing the 3-4.. why would we have thought him to be a good fit? Not to mention basically chewing up all our cap space in the process.

But Ryans in the Philly 4-3 defense seems custom made.. one of the biggest weaknesses the Eagles had, interior defense, has been solved. He also brings a level of leadership and toughness to a team that had its heart question a number of times last season, example Cullen Jenkins speaking out about it.

Additionally, sooner or later the Eagles bill for their free agent spending is going to hit home.. but they are a team that has a small window to win. They are going for it.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Packers_Finland
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13 years ago

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All this talk about Ryans struggling in the 3-4 is based on what? He had a very good season last year. People are only trying to justify the Texans giving a stud away for way too cheap.

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#25

All this talk about Ryans struggling in the 3-4 is based on what? He had a very good season last year. People are only trying to justify the Texans giving a stud away for way too cheap.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

His tackle numbers dropped to what 60ish.. lowest of his career.

I am not saying that I agree with it, but it is apparent they didn't think it a good fit. I point more towards the $$$ than anything. Same thing will happen soon in Philly.. you can't bank roll that many players this quickly and not take the Cap hits accordingly.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Packers_Finland
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Yep, I also think the decision to part with him was about money. Though youof all people should know that tackle stats don't really tell the whole picture since you're always raving about the interior linemen being difference makers without getting the stats.

And yes, he was overshadowed by Cushing who had a Pro Bowl caliber season and ate into his stats from the other inside backer position. It still doesn't mean they gave him away at the right price.

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

I agree.. just pointing out the reference being made.

Yes I hate stats being the sole point of an argument when you can flip on a game and see otherwise.

I do think they got him cheap.. but I also think they are paying the price for poor cap management. Something here in GB we haven't been prone to in a couple of years because we are not overspending outside.

The Texans had a bunch of talent accumulated over the years with high draft slots.. as that players mature the money to pay them all has to come sometimes... not to mention they are paying some top rated skill players premium dollars. IE Foster.. you have to pay him to keep him.. but damn that is steep when other players had success in the same offense. Johnson is chewing up enough outside as well.. sprinkle in a couple FA additions and bang.. you are short on cap room.

But that day is approaching fast were Ted is going to have to let a player or two walk because of the cap.. there is only so much room out there.

I like Meco.. but it doesn't change that he is making 6 mil a year and is better suited in a 4-3 and you have a team in the Texans struggling for cap space. Cushing scares me.. especially with one strike for PED's already.. it is a risk on the Texans part.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

porky88
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13 years ago

#28

Regarding Lawson, he's a very good run defender. I think comparing him to Brad Jones doesn't do him justice. I could see the Packers using him on the outside on first and second down, and then kicking him inside on third downs, while A.J. Hawk comes off the field. Another area to look at is this allows the Packers to bring in a third down pass rush specialists. Last year, the 49ers used Aldon Smith in a similar manner. He was primary a third down player. Signing Lawson allows the Packers to look for their version of Smith, possibly Nick Perry or Andre Branch.

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lolleren
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13 years ago

#29

All this talk about Ryans struggling in the 3-4 is based on what? He had a very good season last year. People are only trying to justify the Texans giving a stud away for way too cheap.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland

He was only a two down linebacker, and was getting payed as a 3 down linebacker, and a good one at that.

In eagles he should be back to playing all 3 downs.

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