dhazer
12 years ago
I like how everyone is blowing this off as impossible, I actually believe the Bears will have the most balanced offense in our division by far, noone will come close to them. Also how can you guys not be worried about this pickup or is it we are the Packers so everyone else sucks and can't beat us. The Bears were in the NFC Championship 2 years ago with no wrs and now they add an ALL Pro but they will suck?

Oh that's right we have an awesome secondary that no one can throw on us. I'm not saying we won't make the playoffs but I am saying I can see the Bears once again winning the division. People are saying the O-line is bad for the Bears, look in the mirror folks we have no center and basically no right tackle.

All I can say is if I was a Bears fan I would be excited about next season.

Ok I know people will say here he goes hating on the Packers but I don't see another 15-1 season for us that's for sure unless Ted Thompson does something to help this team but I see a repeat of his work in Seattle.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
I'm fine with the Bears winning the division after what happened the last time they won it.

BTW love how you went way out on a limb saying the Packers won't go 15 - 1 this season.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago
da Bears won't have the best offense. I'm fine with them having the most balanced offense because we all know how I feel about balance. I like to win, and while da Bears may have a balanced offense, we're built to win games.

The strength of da Bears is their D. Still. Now yes, they got a real WR. Mike Martz is gone so Cutler won't die again in 2012. I'm hoping he plays all 16 games as I'd rather have a challenge than an easy ride. The last thing I want is to have 3 Minnesota Vikings in our division.

Cutler is a Very Good QB. He's not Elite. Forte is a Pro Bowler as he should be. He's like Marshall Faulk-lite. I like Forte a lot. But that OL is still bad and that hasn't changed and until it changes, I'm not putting my money on da Bears winning it all.

Let's not forget that the heart of da Bears' D is getting older, not younger. Aging is unfair and cruel. The big 3 on da Bears' D all made the Pro Bowl last year but I don't expect them all this year. I think only Tillman is under 31.

Now will da Bears be over 500? Yes. We'll have 3 teams in our division over 500.
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dhazer
12 years ago
I have to ask what makes a #1 offense? Will the Bears have more total yards than the Packers and Lions? I say yes because Forte will be over 1000 yards rushing and Cutler if he stays healthy will get his 4000 yards. I guess the offense all depends on Cutlers health.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

I have to ask what makes a #1 offense? Will the Bears have more total yards than the Packers and Lions? I say yes because Forte will be over 1000 yards rushing and Cutler if he stays healthy will get his 4000 yards. I guess the offense all depends on Cutlers health.

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I thought you already knew how I felt about that. Yards are a crap stat. Points is all that matters. If you get touchbacks and drive 79 yards then fumble five times a game and never get in the end zone, all those yards mean nothing. Also, a lot of yards are accumulated when a team is behind and trying to catch up. If you can't make it into the end zone, yards mean nothing.

Forte is awesome. We agree on this. I'm also one of the few people on this board who constantly defends Cutler as one of the better, and yes, tougher QBs. The guy's constantly taking hits and constantly doing his job. I'm convinced the reason people hate Cutler is because he's ugly. I'm serious when I say this. He's a damn good QB. I wouldn't put him in the elite category; more along the lines of an Eli Manning (but the latter is on a better team and it's a team game, not a QB game).

But that OL is bad. I cringe when Cutler takes his hits.
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coltonja
12 years ago
9'ers just signed Manningham. If they get Manning back at anywhere close to where he was before the neck injury they will definitely be one of the scariest offenses in a long time. Gore, Davis, Crabtree, Manningham, Moss(haha sorry couldn't resist). NFC is looking strong for next year.
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

I have to ask what makes a #1 offense? Will the Bears have more total yards than the Packers and Lions? I say yes because Forte will be over 1000 yards rushing and Cutler if he stays healthy will get his 4000 yards. I guess the offense all depends on Cutlers health.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Cutler has been a statistically mediocre QB his entire career. Except for yards. Which actually mean the opposite of what you are saying.

The top 18 offensive performances in the league last year by passing yards only won 33.3% of the time. That is all the 400+ yard games last year.

The top 25% of performances ranked by passer rating last year won 97% of the time. They were 57-1.

Cutler is a career 84.5 rated passer. Which is pretty much average.

When he had Marshall in Denver, he was mediocre. That is not suddenly going to change.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

Cutler has been a statistically mediocre QB his entire career. Except for yards. Which actually mean the opposite of what you are saying.

The top 18 offensive performances in the league last year by passing yards only won 33.3% of the time. That is all the 400+ yard games last year.

The top 25% of performances ranked by passer rating last year won 97% of the time. They were 57-1.

Cutler is a career 84.5 rated passer. Which is pretty much average.

When he had Marshall in Denver, he was mediocre. That is not suddenly going to change.

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You mean he didn't win 5 SBs in 3 years with Brandon Marshall? Hmm... I need to verify my sources better before blurting out "facts."
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

Cutler has been a statistically mediocre QB his entire career. Except for yards. Which actually mean the opposite of what you are saying.

The top 18 offensive performances in the league last year by passing yards only won 33.3% of the time. That is all the 400+ yard games last year.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



I have a little something to add to that. Of those 18 games an offense put up the 400+ yards, two of them the opponent put up even more yards. In both cases the team putting up the most yards lost. So we could actually take out those 2 games.

So of the 16 games left, only 4 were wins. 25% winning percentage for a team putting up 400+ yards in which the opponent didn't put up even more yards.


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dhazer
12 years ago

I have a little something to add to that. Of those 18 games an offense put up the 400+ yards, two of them the opponent put up even more yards. In both cases the team putting up the most yards lost. So we could actually take out those 2 games.

So of the 16 games left, only 4 were wins. 25% winning percentage for a team putting up 400+ yards in which the opponent didn't put up even more yards.

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You guys seem to forget Cutler won't have to throw for 400 yards a game like the Packers do, the Bears have a solid running game that they use. Now you will actually have to defend the passing game in Chicago.

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