Just have two points

First, she allegedly spends 3K on contraceptives because of her sex life. Perhaps she has just one partner and they happen to have a very healthy sex life. I don’t know the whole story, but it’s not my place to judge. Frankly, it’s none of my business or anyone else’s.

I don't know if this was part of the discussion here, but the Blunt amendment isn’t any better. How many employers would find religion or spirituality overnight based on that bills passage? I don’t have a moral objection to most of this stuff, but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t exploit a law to save money. I know, it's a prick move, but many bosses are pricks. That’s my point there. We really need to write our laws better instead of writing them to impress voters. That is such a vague way to write a law.

I often joke that one party is dumb and the other is dumber. I just have trouble figuring out which. This sort of stuff makes it a little easier to figure them out.

Originally Posted by: porky88 

But that is the whole point: I don't obsess about the past, and I don't hate anyone. If they choose to hate me, that is their own problem.

And yes, regardless of how others may view their sincerely held convictions (I think the vast majority of their teachings on sex are absurd), the Catholic Church's freedom to teach and practice according to its conscience is to be protected under the Constitution. "Congress shall make no law . . . prohibiting the free exercise" of religion. It doesn't add the caveat, "unless the majority thinks their practices are outmoded, reactionary, or illogical."

If having your birth control covered by health insurance is that important for you, don't work for an organization you know full well has the sincerely-held belief that birth control is sinful. No one is forcing anyone to work for the Church.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 

I guess his heiness Rush has now apologize for using a poor choice of words. I would just venture a guess that major adverstisers pulling their adds from his show helped to swallow his pride. What I'd like to see is the owner of his network shows some character and fire this stone age bully. Doubtful, very doubtful that will happen.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Porky for the most part it is not one's business. But when she makes a statement publicly about her sex life it is our business.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

But does a religious organization have the right to impose their beliefs on you as their employee on a medical issue?

Like I said earlier, all this is about is laying groundwork for the next type of coverage the right wing wants to weasil out of having to pay. People can attach tangents to anything (lawyer tricks) - rarely to we ever hit a problem head on.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Since when is somebody's sex life a medical issue?

Should they be covering lubricants, sex toys, condoms, etc? One can argue that providing birth control gives a false sense of medical security because although one doesn't get pregnant however you are not protected from STDs.

We will no doubt hear the "regulating the period" argument. I call these people liars. If you are using birth control pills with all the side effect risks just to have a predictable period date you are nuts... or a liar.

And I don't want to come off as a right wing crazy guy. I'm a Libertarian... so if you want to fuck your brains out like I did in University great, but don't expect me as a tax payer to pay for it.

The fallout for socialized health care that you will encounter if you my American friends go down that route is health care will start to be used as a caveat to remove your personal freedoms and taxation will be used as a social engineering stick.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 

If she's having sex with ONE guy, why can't he get a vasectomy?

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

Sorry TKT, if you are in a group health care plan, it isn't your money, it is our money and you don't have a say - we have a say.

And just so you know, Mrs. Dakota gets most of her birth control pills covered for 2 reasons - treating endometriosis, and regulating a heavy flow period with excruciating cramps.

I totally agree with fucking your brains out when you are young experience - and the more the better. I personally used the pull out and shoot method - or when I was looking for some sexual education, went to the bars where the Cougars lived and rolled the dice.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT