Well, I don't disagree that the actual violence plays some part, but I'm drawn to MMA more than pro wrestling because it's actual competition, and not theater. I mean, I'm not a pro wrestling hater, if people like to watch movies, then pro wrestling is okay too.

MMA > football, these days for me. I don't know if it's because of the rule changes like Pack93z said, or post-Super Bowl depression syndrome (what do we have to win anymore?).

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland 

The two games yesterday, especially with the high ratings, maybe will bring into question the "need" to allow the offenses to rack up points like a pinball machine.. traditional balanced games do work for ratings and leave the traditional integrity of the game intact.

Even with the "offensively biased contact rules" in place.. there was still injuries. Face it.. it is part of the game.. you sign the contract, you know the risks involved with playing the sport.

If you want to play the game closer to the vest and not risk your body.. chose a different sport.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 

Well, it pains me to admit that I was wrong, but I thought that we'd be the 2nd team in 3 years to win a SB with this formula:
1) superior offensive firepower,
2) D that depends almost entirely on takeaways to win

It didn't happen. The '09 Saints were a fluke, and not a new rule. So it's back to the old cliche "defense wins championships."

Dammit.

Oh well though. We were #2 in '10. We can be elite again in '12 with a few tweaks.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 

Don't worry, brother. None of us got confused as regards your intellect vs. you actually knowing what you were talking about as regards the Green Bay Packers, so you have that going for you. Alternatively, if you keep heading south intellectually, you might want to check with Vikesrule's relatives to see where they ultimately decided to send his poor crazy ass.


lol

Love ya bro.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

Nah. I'm always trying to get better by correcting what I get wrong.

VR on the other hand likes to twist things around to make him look smarter. The only times he'll admit he's wrong is when there's a bet involved. :-"

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 

PLUS

I was big-time kidding you in order to mess with Nick some more.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

I'm a little in the middle on how you posed this one...

Let me start by saying that I prefer defense. I think that the two most enjoyable games I've ever seen were the 17-7 victory over the Cowboys in 2009 and the 9-0 win against the Jets in 2010...

That said, I'm not that big a fan of that smashmouth style of football you speak of.

Yes, I still like to see the Ravens defense play these days, but not like I used to.

It's that psychological effect, the speed, the surgical precision that does it for me.

Even on sacks, while there's nothing better than seeing Reggie White fling a 300 pound man to the ground with one hand, I prefer having those speedy edge rushers. A Dwight Freeney, a Willie Davis, someone who has that ridiculous agility and speed for a person that size.

That said, any form of defense is suffering right now. It's all geared towards offense and I'm not a fan, either.

Ps. I know, without those 350 pound NTs, those 320 DEs, all that speed would be worthless, but you get my point.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder