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13 years ago

or people don't want to fathom anything happening to Aaron Rodgers or even ink it down on a little forum and would rather something with Finley than nothing but a bench player in Flynn. :)


Or maybe they dislike white people with a beard?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




oh no. I am not white I am between khaki and umber depending on the time of year. (My Italiano roots show up.)
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

It's probably just a case of "ask the girl to the dance who's likely to say yes." Everyone assumes Flynn is a foregone conclusion, so they'd rather focus on the guy there is a chance of keeping.

Personally, if it were possible, I'd rather keep Flynn. It seems like he could keep the momentum of this team going forward were the worst to happen with Rodgers, while big strong receivers are a dime a dozen these days.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Ah finally someone agrees with me on this.

Funny because in the chat, I could have sworn it was more than 50% calling for Finley's head.

And yes, he still owes Rockmolder a glove. Maybe a Dutch hooker gave him the clap and he hates that country or anyone from it now.
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13 years ago
Here it is the third page and there are no people asking "what if".

If you foolishly choose a TE, especially 4F
(Fumble Fingers Finley)
, as more valuable than a QB:

- You throw away a lot of team personnel value.

- You say Matt Flynn has little trade value.

- You start the Graham Harrell back up era

- Graham Harrell is better than Quarless and Crabtree.

- You make the same GM firing error the Bears did (Caleb Hanie)

- You claim the Packers wasted roster spots keeping so many TE's in 2011 missing out on other opportunities.

- You are saying the Packers wasted 2 draft picks on Dj Williams and Ryan Taylor missing out on other players.

- You don't understand the QB market.

- You don't understand the principle of insurance.



I sure have exclaimed "4F" more during games than "TGIF".
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Here it is the third page and there are no people asking "what if".

🅱If you foolishly choose a TE, especially 4F
(Fumble Fingers Finley)
, as more valuable than a QB:

Originally Posted by: CaliforniaCheez 


I stopped because I'm stumped on the 4th F and where it comes into play. I. Lose.


Edit, just seen something about Matt Flynn and trade value. After March, he's a free agent, thus, no trade value at all. Unless you actually think the Packers are going to tag Matt Flynn, which, I mean, c'mon now let's not be foolish, lol.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

Here it is the third page and there are no people asking "what if".

If you foolishly choose a TE, especially 4F
(Fumble Fingers Finley)
, as more valuable than a QB:

- You throw away a lot of team personnel value.

- You say Matt Flynn has little trade value.

- You start the Graham Harrell back up era

- Graham Harrell is better than Quarless and Crabtree.

- You make the same GM firing error the Bears did (Caleb Hanie)

- You claim the Packers wasted roster spots keeping so many TE's in 2011 missing out on other opportunities.

- You are saying the Packers wasted 2 draft picks on Dj Williams and Ryan Taylor missing out on other players.

- You don't understand the QB market.

- You don't understand the principle of insurance.



I sure have exclaimed "4F" more during games than "TGIF".

Originally Posted by: CaliforniaCheez 



Did you miss Page 2? Page 2, at the top, I asked the "what if?" question and used it as my reasoning why we need Flynn more than Finley.

What if Finley got injured? Well, we won a SB with an injured Finley.

What if Aaron got injured? Well, we almost kept up with Tom Brady with Flynn and with week 17 completely meaningless, Flynn set 2 Packers game records - most TD passes with 6 and most yards with 480.

It seems obvious to me that Flynn > Finley.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
What if Jermichael Finley gets injured? How about when he does? I shouldn't say that, he did play a full 16 this year.

No question, Matt Flynn is more valuable IF Aaron Rodgers were to go down for an EXTENDED period of time.

The what if game, piled into a what if question is endless, but carry on fellas! 🙂
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Stevetarded
13 years ago

Did you miss Page 2? Page 2, at the top, I asked the "what if?" question and used it as my reasoning why we need Flynn more than Finley.

What if Finley got injured? Well, we won a SB with an injured Finley.

What if Aaron got injured? Well, we almost kept up with Tom Brady with Flynn and with week 17 completely meaningless, Flynn set 2 Packers game records - most TD passes with 6 and most yards with 480.

It seems obvious to me that Flynn > Finley.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



What if Aaron Rodgers doesn't get injured? Flynn contributed to exactly 1 meaningless game this year while Finley contributed to all of the meaningful ones...
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
The reason 🇹🇹 drafts BPA is you never know what positions injuries will occur in.

We got depth at TE. Would be nice to keep depth at QB.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

The reason 🇹🇹 drafts BPA is you never know what positions injuries will occur in.

We got depth at TE. Would be nice to keep depth at QB.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 


I thought the reason Ted Thompson drafted the best player available was to assemble a team full of the best players... available. 😛
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dhazer
13 years ago
I say we sign Flynn and franchise Finley and trade both of them away to try and strengthen up our defense.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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