Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Hypothetically speaking, the Packers can keep only one. Matt Flynn or Jermichael Finley. Who do you keep and what is your reasoning?

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earthquake
13 years ago

Hypothetically speaking, the Packers can keep only one. Matt Flynn or Jermichael Finley. Who do you keep and what is your reasoning?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Finley, simply because I don't think there is any chance the packers will "keep" Flynn. They may tag-n-trade him, but its virtually certain that he will be playing for another team next year.

So the question then becomes, to me, is the chance to get a 1st or 2nd round pick(likely a high pick from a bad team) vs a 3rd round compensatory pick worth the risk of losing Finley? For a high 1st it becomes a really tough choice, but I dont think it will come to that, so I think tagging Finley is a safer bet.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
lol ... I said the Packers can keep only one!!! This eliminates what you think the Packers have a chance of doing! :P

I think a starting tight end holds more value than a backup quarterback who backs up a rather durable quarterback. If Aaron Rodgers was say Ben Roethlisberger then my opinion would change. I find this question difficult to answer myself because I believe Andrew Quarless and another tight end (not sure whom, I just expect someone to step up) could fill the void of Jermichael Finley.

I also believe retaining a starting tight end is less expensive than a back up (starting caliber) quarterback.

I would resign Jermichael Finley with an incentive based contract. Probably only a 3 year deal with an out after year one. If his drops continue and it costs the Packers a game or more... trade or cut and replace.
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all_about_da_packers
13 years ago
No question that I'd keep Finley in an instant.

Dude is magnificently talented. He does so much to free up others not only in coverage wise but in terms of using his body (Driver's TD catch is an example). Frankly I love his skill set and talent so much; if we did not have the weapons we do, I think he'd easily be able to compete with other young TEs for receiving yards and TDs.

The scary thing is, Finley still has room to grow. He's become a better blocker, but his catching could stand to improve.

On a personal level, I absolutely love his attitude. His whole "I'm the best, I'm gonna be a little arrogant and back it up by practicing hard to prove it out on the field" type of attitude has grown tremendously on me. I love his confidence and willingness to walk the walk after talking the talk.

I still think his YOTTO has not arrived. Which, if you think about it, is a pretty damn scary thought in the sense that he still has room to become more dominant.

In case after all that you could not tell my views on J-Mike / are too lazy to read the top, let me put it this way: AADP <3's Finley. A lot.
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13 years ago
no doubt its Finley. Yes they have 5 TE but Jer has the potential to be a special one. Even when he drops passes he still commands a great deal of respect from the defense which helps free up the WRs.
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Yerko
13 years ago
Finley.

He is a starting tight end in a cluttered depth of tight ends and despite his drops this season, he is still the best tight end on the roster. He fits in the with the new style that some tight ends bring to teams; the ability to play tight end and play slot. There may only be one or two other tight ends that can actually play wide receiver in this league (Aaron Hernandez and Jimmy Graham) other than Finley.

While he isn't catching the ball he is busy taking on double coverage and creating openings for the receivers. While he does this, Matt Flynn is growing a beard on the sideline and learning from Rodgers. 😄
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Stevetarded
13 years ago
I think they are probably going to let Finley hit FA and let the market decide what he's worth. It doesn't sound like him or his agent is budging much from thinking he should be the highest paid TE so Ted Thompson will probably let him see what other teams are willing to give him and either match/top it or let him go (if some team decides to break the bank for him).
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Dulak
13 years ago
TE - finley easily ...
although flynn did a nice job on sunday
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I think they are probably going to let Finley hit FA and let the market decide what he's worth. It doesn't sound like him or his agent is budging much from thinking he should be the highest paid TE so Ted Thompson will probably let him see what other teams are willing to give him and either match/top it or let him go (if some team decides to break the bank for him).

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Where did Jermichael Finley or his agent state Finely should be the top paid TE? I ask, because I can't remember hearing anything close to this.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
I'll bet Zero's left nut that Finley has a contract prior to free agency. Whether or not Flynn gets the tag as a result of the aforementioned is anybody's guess.
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