warhawk
16 years ago

The Vikings ST might be worse, but our ST always lets us down at the most important moments.

Missed kick in Min, Returns in Car. etc.

Not to say that you're special teams never do that. You got killed against Chicago by the STs.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I think McCarthy said it best when he pointed out the Packers had over 200 more yards of field they had to cover in order to score than the Panthers.

That's what happens when your cover teams are giving up 40 and 50 yard returns and your punter is shanking ever other kick.

That's a little much to overcome. Especially when you are playing 9-3 football teams.
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Rockmolder
16 years ago

The Vikings ST might be worse, but our ST always lets us down at the most important moments.

Missed kick in Min, Returns in Car. etc.

Not to say that you're special teams never do that. You got killed against Chicago by the STs.

"warhawk" wrote:



I think McCarthy said it best when he pointed out the Packers had over 200 more yards of field they had to cover in order to score than the Panthers.

That's what happens when your cover teams are giving up 40 and 50 yard returns and your punter is shanking ever other kick.

That's a little much to overcome. Especially when you are playing 9-3 football teams.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Ye, Like I said, they throw it away when we need them the most.

When we where leading the Bears bigtime, Hester was contained all day. When we play Carolina though, their PR is all over the place.

When we play against Minnesota, our pass defense picks Gus of 3 times, our ST gets a PR TD and our offense couldn't move the ball to save their lives.

When we play NO, all of a sudden our pass defense seems to be all out of sync.

My point is, there's always someting wrong at a crucial moment, the team never seems to play good collectively.
alldaybaby
16 years ago

i think yesterday was the 4th time this year rodgers as had the ball in hand and failed to lead the team in a 4th quarter comeback to win the game , until he gets over that hurdle you will always have trouble winning games

"warhawk" wrote:




And in almost all these games he ALREADY led the team to the winninng TD only to watch the ST's and defense fail to hold leads he created.

A little much to ask when you've got a buck twenty and starting on your own sixteen to lead the team back....again when you just took them eighty yards only to fail to get it in from the 1 and nobody can blame Rodgers for that.

I think it's safe to say we can be much more worried about the failure to maintain leads and finish then to say we don't have a QB who can lead us back to victory with less then 2 minutes left in ballgames.

"Packnic" wrote:




sorry i'm not buying the ST excuse , the vikings have the worst ST record in the history of the NFL this year , it hasn't stopped us winning games

"alldaybaby" wrote:




please tell me you are insinuating that Gus is better than Aaron. please.

.

"warhawk" wrote:



Well, if your ST's play as lousy as the Pack's did Sunday with the game in the balance we'll see how many more victories they get won't we?

"alldaybaby" wrote:




not ignoring the rest of you , just answering the last post but it applies to all...........you guys are complaining about 30 and 40 yards returns , we've let six get run back for touchdowns (twice aginst you guys)we still manged to win two of them games , we've had punts blocked inside our own 10 yard line , we had a guy turn his back on the ball and let it hit him inside the ten yard line ,we lost that one by 7 points , so please stop the moaning , you've had it good compared to us as far as ST play goes, and no i'm not saying gus is better than rodgers .............but his not much worse
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cheeseheads123
16 years ago

i think yesterday was the 4th time this year rodgers as had the ball in hand and failed to lead the team in a 4th quarter comeback to win the game , until he gets over that hurdle you will always have trouble winning games

"alldaybaby" wrote:




And in almost all these games he ALREADY led the team to the winninng TD only to watch the ST's and defense fail to hold leads he created.

A little much to ask when you've got a buck twenty and starting on your own sixteen to lead the team back....again when you just took them eighty yards only to fail to get it in from the 1 and nobody can blame Rodgers for that.

I think it's safe to say we can be much more worried about the failure to maintain leads and finish then to say we don't have a QB who can lead us back to victory with less then 2 minutes left in ballgames.

"warhawk" wrote:




sorry i'm not buying the ST excuse , the vikings have the worst ST record in the history of the NFL this year , it hasn't stopped us winning games

"Packnic" wrote:




please tell me you are insinuating that Gus is better than Aaron. please.

.

"alldaybaby" wrote:



Well, if your ST's play as lousy as the Pack's did Sunday with the game in the balance we'll see how many more victories they get won't we?

"warhawk" wrote:




not ignoring the rest of you , just answering the last post but it applies to all...........you guys are complaining about 30 and 40 yards returns , we've let six get run back for touchdowns (twice aginst you guys)we still manged to win two of them games , we've had punts blocked inside our own 10 yard line , we had a guy turn his back on the ball and let it hit him inside the ten yard line ,we lost that one by 7 points , so please stop the moaning , you've had it good compared to us as far as ST play goes, and no i'm not saying gus is better than rodgers .............but his not much worse

"alldaybaby" wrote:

That has nothing to do with anything.
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dfosterf
16 years ago
Mike McCarthy addressing issues as they evidence themselves:

From left to right, Special team punt and kickoff coverage, the punter, the offensive line, the defensive line, linebacker play and turnovers in critical situations.

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alldaybaby
16 years ago

i think yesterday was the 4th time this year rodgers as had the ball in hand and failed to lead the team in a 4th quarter comeback to win the game , until he gets over that hurdle you will always have trouble winning games

"cheeseheads123" wrote:




And in almost all these games he ALREADY led the team to the winninng TD only to watch the ST's and defense fail to hold leads he created.

A little much to ask when you've got a buck twenty and starting on your own sixteen to lead the team back....again when you just took them eighty yards only to fail to get it in from the 1 and nobody can blame Rodgers for that.

I think it's safe to say we can be much more worried about the failure to maintain leads and finish then to say we don't have a QB who can lead us back to victory with less then 2 minutes left in ballgames.

"alldaybaby" wrote:




sorry i'm not buying the ST excuse , the vikings have the worst ST record in the history of the NFL this year , it hasn't stopped us winning games

"warhawk" wrote:




please tell me you are insinuating that Gus is better than Aaron. please.

.

"Packnic" wrote:



Well, if your ST's play as lousy as the Pack's did Sunday with the game in the balance we'll see how many more victories they get won't we?

"alldaybaby" wrote:




not ignoring the rest of you , just answering the last post but it applies to all...........you guys are complaining about 30 and 40 yards returns , we've let six get run back for touchdowns (twice aginst you guys)we still manged to win two of them games , we've had punts blocked inside our own 10 yard line , we had a guy turn his back on the ball and let it hit him inside the ten yard line ,we lost that one by 7 points , so please stop the moaning , you've had it good compared to us as far as ST play goes, and no i'm not saying gus is better than rodgers .............but his not much worse

"warhawk" wrote:

That has nothing to do with anything.

"alldaybaby" wrote:




what has nothing to do with anything , you guys are blaming ST when really you have bigger problems , i wish our ST was half as good we would have this division in the bag by now if they were.........although they did play o.k last sunday
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warhawk
16 years ago
So I guess we should just ignore the fact that when we score a TD and then allow a 50 yard return which results in a score, then score AGAIN, only to allow a 45 yard KO return setting up the winning TD we cannot mention ST's because your ST's are worse than ours and so therefore we CANNOT even think it could contribute to why we lost.

I learned something today. I had no idea only one team could have poor ST's. I feel so much better already!
"The train is leaving the station."
DakotaT
16 years ago

So I guess we should just ignore the fact that when we score a TD and then allow a 50 yard return which results in a score, then score AGAIN, only to allow a 45 yard KO return setting up the winning TD we cannot mention ST's because your ST's are worse than ours and so therefore we CANNOT even think it could contribute to why we lost.

I learned something today. I had no idea only one team could have poor ST's. I feel so much better already!

"warhawk" wrote:



What would make me feel better is if the Vikings were ever called for offensive holding, or the officials actually would make McKinnie line up on the line of scrimmage. The Vikings were flat out given the New Orleans and Detroit games by the refs (Yeah, that's right allday, you should have been 1-5 through six games. But like one of my Viking buddies tells me, all that matters is the W. Of course I disagree.

The Vikings ST suck because they have a roster 1/4 full of players who don't belong in the NFL (please see the Jared Allen trade). I attribute our current ST problems to injuries.
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Cheesey
16 years ago
ST cost us BIG this year. No matter what the Vikings ST's did or did not do.

With our D as bad as it is, giving other teams 50 yard fields to our 85 yard fields DOES make a difference.
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Pack93z
16 years ago
Well with the Williams twins getting 4 games each of suspension... confirmed this afternoon, catching the Vikes just got easier.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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