zombieslayer
13 years ago
Dexter does have a good point. From personal experience, the 1% hot chicks were pretty shallow and BORING when it came to actually talking. They'd be great for flings and bragging, but bad for any LTR.

Looks do matter though as Dakota pointed out, and personally, I wouldn't be able to look at the chick that Aaron's with for the next 20 years. Those who say looks don't matter are generally homely people. Looks do matter, but they are not the end all be all.

I think Zero had a good point that 7 is good enough, and 7s actually age pretty well. The 10s will do everything short of selling their souls to stay at 10s, like plastic surgery, fake parts, fake tans, etc., and end up looking pretty nasty in their 40s, whereas a 7 will still be a 6.5 in her 40s if she walks and eats right.

The thing with Aaron's gf is that she's a 7 now and she already does the fake tanning, hair dying. I'd hate to see her when she's in her 40s.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Dexter does have a good point. From personal experience, the 1% hot chicks were pretty shallow and BORING when it came to actually talking. They'd be great for flings and bragging, but bad for any LTR.

Looks do matter though as Dakota pointed out, and personally, I wouldn't be able to look at the chick that Aaron's with for the next 20 years. Those who say looks don't matter are generally homely people. Looks do matter, but they are not the end all be all.

I think Zero had a good point that 7 is good enough, and 7s actually age pretty well. The 10s will do everything short of selling their souls to stay at 10s, like plastic surgery, fake parts, fake tans, etc., and end up looking pretty nasty in their 40s, whereas a 7 will still be a 6.5 in her 40s if she walks and eats right.

The thing with Aaron's gf is that she's a 7 now and she already does the fake tanning, hair dying. I'd hate to see her when she's in her 40s.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




Can you be a bigger pussy? [grin1] Holy no commitment Batman! When we're picking out babes for Wade in Vegas, you better come aboard my boat. Wade's not settling for no 7. [puke]
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

Can you be a bigger pussy? [grin1] Holy no commitment Batman! When we're picking out babes for Wade in Vegas, you better come aboard my boat. Wade's not settling for no 7. [puke]

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Fling != LTR.

For flings and mistresses, you get 9s or 10s.

For LTRs, you get 7s that treat you nicely for the next 20 years.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Fling != LTR.

For flings and mistresses, you get 9s or 10s.

For LTRs, you get 7s that treat you nicely for the next 20 years.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




I guess I'm a lucky Mofo then. Just another reason for DakotaT envy and hatred. Sometimes this stuff is just too easy.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

I guess I'm a lucky Mofo then. Just another reason for DakotaT envy and hatred. Sometimes this stuff is just too easy.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I wouldn't trade wives with you.

Mine is low maintenance and we still have sex. She also requires much less money and doesn't drive me nuts. Plus, red-heads > blondes. But that's a personal preference. You're entitled to disagree with the last part.
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DoddPower
13 years ago
Eh, looks obviously matter a lot more to many here than to me. I don't feel the need to brag at all. I have a very attractive girlfriend of 7 years who is likely ~ an 8. However, that's not what means most to me. I enjoy the fact that she's a gourmet chief and cooks absolutely amazing fresh meals and treats every day of the week. All fresh, all homemade. I get a delicious lunch packed for me every day, a nice cup of Vietnamese coffee waiting on me as I wake up every morning, great breakfast/lunch during the games, etc. She's currently a successful business manager who has spent time managing multi-million dollar budgets for the PA State Congress (yes, one of the most corrupt in the States). In her spare time, she spends time volunteering and sitting on the board of the local animal shelter. Every christmas, she literally does all the shopping and gift preparation (always including some delicious homemade treats). I almost never clean with the exception of loading the dishwasher. I try to help more just to be nice, but certainly not a requirement.

I could go on, but I think my point is made. For a one night stand or a mistress, sure, there is nothing more than looks. However, if we're talking about 20 years, give me all the above 100 times over before a "super-babe." Looks inevitably decrease or fade anyway, especially at a certain age. I need much more than that to keep me around.

I realize the above comes across as bragging, but it was meant to make a point. Anyone remember that Family Guy episode where Brian is dating some reality TV star who is highly intelligent and they end up breaking up because she's too smart for him (among other things such as his love for his ex). Maybe it's a situation like this? Who knows. Either way, hopefully she's at least a good cook! 😉
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I thought it would go without saying that "amazing personality" encompasses such factors as "awesome in bed" and "highly intelligent," but I guess that idea sailed clear over everyone's head.

And "hot = boring" is just an idiotic prejudice from guys who don't know their way around women. In my experience, the most fascinating, talented, gifted and intelligent women I know are also among the hottest I've ever met -- which makes sense, when you consider the fact that physical attractiveness is the marker of good genes for female humans.

I used to believe the stereotype that hot women are boring, until I got to know more hot women. Then I started to realize that the reason why hot women tend to seem boring to most men is that most men act really boring around hot women. Hot girls learn early on that life is handed to them on a platter purely on account of their physical beauty. Of course they are going to act boring around people who give them whatever they want -- they don't have to work for it. I've learned that showing a little appreciation for intelligence tends to magically turn dumb ditzes into poised, articulate women with interesting opinions and often pretty exciting lives. Both of the Kats tell me that one of the biggest reasons why they are with me is that I'm not afraid to put them in their place when they act up.

Ditzy, dumb blonde (or its evil cousin, the bitch shield) is just a role women play because it's the path of least resistance to getting what they want. It's rarely who they actually are on the inside and it's almost never satisfying for them.

Which is another way of saying there are a lot of men out there who are pussies intimidated by the thought of an intelligent woman.
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DoddPower
13 years ago

I thought it would go without saying that "amazing personality" encompasses such factors as "awesome in bed" and "highly intelligent," but I guess that idea sailed clear over everyone's head.

And "hot = boring" is just an idiotic prejudice from guys who don't know their way around women. In my experience, the most fascinating, talented, gifted and intelligent women I know are also among the hottest I've ever met -- which makes sense, when you consider the fact that physical attractiveness is the marker of good genes for female humans.

I used to believe the stereotype that hot women are boring, until I got to know more hot women. Then I started to realize that the reason why hot women tend to seem boring to most men is that most men act really boring around hot women. Hot girls learn early on that life is handed to them on a platter purely on account of their physical beauty. Of course they are going to act boring around people who give them whatever they want -- they don't have to work for it. I've learned that showing a little appreciation for intelligence tends to magically turn dumb ditzes into poised, articulate women with interesting opinions and often pretty exciting lives.

Ditzy, dumb blonde is just a role they play because it gets them what they want. It rarely is who they actually are.

Which is another way of saying there are a lot of men out there who are pussies intimidated by the thought of an intelligent woman.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 




Heh, I agree there's more than meets the eye often (see the silly Family Guy episode I gave earlier). However, I know tons of women through going to 3 high schools, 5 colleges, and living in several cities and I must say, sometimes there ISN'T more than meets the eye. Obviously there's exceptions to anything, but a decent bit of ladies, both highly attractive and not, and not very intelligent at all. That's not even mentioning the high drama often associated with some of them. It can definitely go both ways. It really just depends on the individual, regardless of others perception of their beauty.
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Well, yeah. The biggest problem with discussions like this is no one seems to agree on what a hot woman actually is. zombieslayer thinks Kat1 is a lot more attractive than Kat2, while I think it's objectively obvious that Kat2 is hotter in the classical sense. My best friend moons over women who look like ancient fertility figurines, while I cringe at the idea of having a woman like that in my arms.

I do think, however, that there are some universal traits of beauty (and science would tend to agree), and I don't really see any of them except on the most shallow of levels in Destiny Newton.

I will always strenuously object to the idea that hot women are boring, though. Besides being offensive, I think it stems from a bad case of sour grapes for most men and perpetuates the cycle of assholes getting the most beautiful women.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Rourke sounds a little like Hitler with his beautiful women are better because good looking = good genes. Of course, I say this joking around as Rourke would never go to the level of Hitler.
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