zombieslayer
13 years ago

May not even have to face the Saints anyway. Especially if Atlanta somehow finds a way to win the division.

Originally Posted by: Rios39 



I highly doubt the Falcons can knock off the Saints though. The Falcons are a boring game managing team and couldn't keep up with the Saints' fire power, especially since they'll most likely meet in NO.
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Rios39
13 years ago

I highly doubt the Falcons can knock off the Saints though. The Falcons are a boring game managing team and couldn't keep up with the Saints' fire power, especially since they'll most likely meet in NO.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Last 2 games they have played the have been less than a field goal spread. The game earlier this year went into over-time where they (Falcons) lost due to getting stuffed on their own 30 on 4th down.

So I don't think it's as clear cut as you think.

Falcons put up 44 points last week and 31 the week before with Matt Ryan throwing the ball well. It's not like the falcons are offensively challenged themselves. I also would say that the Falcons, defensively, seem to give Brees all he can handle. Kind of like the Bears USUALLY do to Rodgers.
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13 years ago

When comparing Rodgers' statistics to Brady's or Brees', people often seem to overlook the fact that Rodgers has already sat for at least three quarters this season. With that in mind, his statistics are nothing short of mind boggling.

1 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB ~ 45 TD's, 6 ints
2 Drew Brees, QB NO ~ 37 TD's, 11 ints
3 Tom Brady, QB NE ~ 36 TD's, 11 ints

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 




I honestly don't know how much Brees or Brady sat this season - maybe they sat 3 quarters as well, maybe more, maybe less. Also, you're comparing Brady/Rodgers to Brees when he has played one less game.

With all of that said, ARod put the nail in the coffin last night. Even if all MVP voters were from Louisiana or West Lafayette, IN, ARod's end-of-season 140+ QBR/5 TD performance pretty much ended the debate, IMO.
zombieslayer
13 years ago

Last 2 games they have played the have been less than a field goal spread. The game earlier this year went into over-time where they (Falcons) lost due to getting stuffed on their own 30 on 4th down.

So I don't think it's as clear cut as you think.

Falcons put up 44 points last week and 31 the week before with Matt Ryan throwing the ball well. It's not like the falcons are offensively challenged themselves. I also would say that the Falcons, defensively, seem to give Brees all he can handle. Kind of like the Bears USUALLY do to Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: Rios39 



Yeah, doing a little more research, you're right. Falcons do have the 10th O, so they're no slouches either. They could be a good match up.

Against us, if I wanted an easy win, I'd much rather face the Falcons.
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buckeyepackfan
13 years ago

Is the MVP announced before or after the playoffs are done?

If it's before, then maybe Brees should win. Rodgers will have an enormous chip on his shoulder which would just make "1 2 3 Dominate!" even more so. [grin1]

Of course if its after the playoffs, never mind. There's no contest. Rodgers all the way.

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If I remember right, the MVP voting is done before the playoffs begin, unless it has been changed. The Post season is not supposed to have any bearing on the outcome of the vote.

There's been a lot of chirping down in New Orleans but as it has beens so well stated in many of the earlier posts, if Mike had turned Aaron loose the whole season and let him finish games, his numbers would well exceed Breeses.

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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I fairness to New Orleans, they haven't exactly had many opportunities to play outdoors this year. If I am not mistaken, they play 12 games in domes this year.
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Rios39
13 years ago
Brees with a 4 touchdown game now has 41 TD's but threw 2 picks giving him 13 on the season. Now owns the passing yardage record.
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13 years ago

Brees with a 4 touchdown game now has 41 TD's but threw 2 picks giving him 13 on the season. Now owns the passing yardage record.

Originally Posted by: Rios39 



I would like nothing more than to see the Lions entire starting unit suffer a temporary illness preventing them from playing, leaving Rodgers to throw something like 70 times for 800 yards to out-run-it-up the run-it-upper. Seriously, sending Brees back out with a 3 TD lead with 11 minutes left to go and taking shots down the field? Enjoy your meaningless record, I'll take 50 less yards a game if it means less picks and keeping my QB out of harms way when the game is sealed.
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13 years ago
Its a lock.
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13 years ago
Wow, I watched the Saints game. If he plays us like that against us and we don't pick him 5-6 times, I would be shocked.
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