earthquake
13 years ago
For anyone who has the slightest doubt that Rodgers will and should win, and think that Brees should get any consideration I present this to you:

1.224

Drew Brees has thrown the ball 1.224 times more than Aaron Rodgers this season. Sure, Brees is going to kill the yardage record, but he's throwing more than anyone in the league too.

To look at it another way, if we average out Rodger's stats to cover a 16 game season, and multiply them all by 1.224, we end up with this:

448 completions
655 attempts
6065 yards
59 TDs
8 INTs

When you look at it this way, there really is no doubt that Rodgers is the only reasonable choice for MVP, nor that he is having one of the best seasons in the history of the game.

Just for kicks, if Rodgers threw as much as Brady did in 2007, he would have 5345 yards and 52 TDs to 7 INTs, compared to 4906, 50 and 8 respectively.

Peyton Manning's 2004 season is very close.
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djcubez
13 years ago

For anyone who has the slightest doubt that Rodgers will and should win, and think that Brees should get any consideration I present this to you:

1.224

Drew Brees has thrown the ball 1.224 times more than Aaron Rodgers this season. Sure, Brees is going to kill the yardage record, but he's throwing more than anyone in the league too.

To look at it another way, if we average out Rodger's stats to cover a 16 game season, and multiply them all by 1.224, we end up with this:

448 completions
655 attempts
6065 yards
59 TDs
8 INTs

When you look at it this way, there really is no doubt that Rodgers is the only reasonable choice for MVP, nor that he is having one of the best seasons in the history of the game.

Just for kicks, if Rodgers threw as much as Brady did in 2007, he would have 5345 yards and 52 TDs to 7 INTs, compared to 4906, 50 and 8 respectively.

Peyton Manning's 2004 season is very close.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



Exactly. This is why Rodgers Yard Per Attempt is such an amazing statistic.
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13 years ago

If Aaron Rodgers doesn't win the MVP, then something is very wrong with the voting process. Drew Brees is playing well, but Rodgers is having one of the greatest single seasons in history. The yardage stat is overrated in today's NFL. Dan Marino's 5,000-plus yard season in the mid 80s is always going to be more impressive than 5,000 yards in today‘s NFL. I think most levelheaded voters will see it that way.

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If Rodgers does not get MVP, then he has been robbed.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Rebounding after a crappy Chiefs game to throw 5 TD's without his top WR ... I don't think there is any doubt Aaron Rodgers wins MVP regardless of Drew Brees breaking the yards record for passing, which he'll probably do late in the third quarter tonight, lol.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
When comparing Rodgers' statistics to Brady's or Brees', people often seem to overlook the fact that Rodgers has already sat for at least three quarters this season. With that in mind, his statistics are nothing short of mind boggling.

1 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB ~ 45 TD's, 6 ints
2 Drew Brees, QB NO ~ 37 TD's, 11 ints
3 Tom Brady, QB NE ~ 36 TD's, 11 ints
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13 years ago
Is the MVP announced before or after the playoffs are done?

If it's before, then maybe Brees should win. Rodgers will have an enormous chip on his shoulder which would just make "1 2 3 Dominate!" even more so. [grin1]

Of course if its after the playoffs, never mind. There's no contest. Rodgers all the way.
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earthquake
13 years ago

Exactly. This is why Rodgers Yard Per Attempt is such an amazing statistic.

Originally Posted by: djcubez 



Yeah really, not just the yards per attempt but the completion % and number of attempts, nobody has really done anything like this before.
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Rios39
13 years ago

Brees
9 indoor games: 117.9, 257-353, 72.8, 2,931, 28-5
5 outdoor games: 95.7, 160-230, 69.6, 1,849, 9-6

Rodgers
3 indoor games: 126.2, 72-102, 70.6, 1,038, 7-0
11 outdoor games: 118.5, 250-371, 67.4, 3,322, 33-6

I believe the most telling statistic is Yards Per Attempt. Rodgers is averaging an insane 9.4 while Brees is at 8.0. It's not really a knock on Brees that he throws to his halfbacks a lot but it does account for a good amount of his yards. Basically, Rodgers throws the ball down field more.

Originally Posted by: djcubez 





Brees only has 9 TD to 6 Picks outdoors. Only thing I don't like about that he probably threw half those TD's against the packers in week one... Even Tampa Bay dominated him outdoors.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

Brees only has 9 TD to 6 Picks outdoors. Only thing I don't like about that he probably threw half those TD's against the packers in week one... Even Tampa Bay dominated him outdoors.

Originally Posted by: Rios39 



Oh whoa. Really?

Here I was fearing the Saints robbing us of our 2nd straight Lombardi. That kind of changes things.
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Rios39
13 years ago

Oh whoa. Really?

Here I was fearing the Saints robbing us of our 2nd straight Lombardi. That kind of changes things.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



May not even have to face the Saints anyway. Especially if Atlanta somehow finds a way to win the division.
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