musccy
  • musccy
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
13 years ago
It has been assumed to be a foregone conclusion for much of the season that A.R. would be the MVP. However, I'm starting to wonder if that's still the case. This isn't a criticism of him, knee jerk to the loss, or anything, just thoughts based on stats and records

Brees I think is the biggest challenger, and as of today's games...

DB 71.5% completion, 37:11 (TD:int), 4,780 yards, 105.9 rating (QBR as of last week, will increase)
AR 68.0% completion, 40:6 (TD:int), 4,360 yards, 123.3 rating (QBR as of last week, will decrease)

Brees has had some big games, and DB will likely break 1, possibly 2 NFL records with the yards and completion % this year. I still think the nod goes to Aaron, but I'm not so certain it's a done deal anymore.
porky88
13 years ago
If Aaron Rodgers doesn't win the MVP, then something is very wrong with the voting process. Drew Brees is playing well, but Rodgers is having one of the greatest single seasons in history. The yardage stat is overrated in today's NFL. Dan Marino's 5,000-plus yard season in the mid 80s is always going to be more impressive than 5,000 yards in today‘s NFL. I think most levelheaded voters will see it that way.

RedSoxExcel
13 years ago
It's not based just on stats, arguably Packers have the better "team", so, I don't agree with it necessarily, but that will weight on the voting as well. After last week, I thought it was unanimous Rodgers. Now, probably still Rodgers but Brees will get some votes. Brees is also having one of the best seasons ever for a QB.
blank
Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

If Aaron Rodgers doesn't win the MVP, then something is very wrong with the voting process. Drew Brees is playing well, but Rodgers is having one of the greatest single seasons in history. The yardage stat is overrated in today's NFL. Dan Marino's 5,000-plus yard season in the mid 80s is always going to be more impressive than 5,000 yards in today‘s NFL. I think most levelheaded voters will see it that way.

Originally Posted by: porky88 


Rodgers rating this game is 80.1 so it will go down a bit.

Brees has had a couple that were worse this year. He had a 70.9 and a 73.0 rating. He also had an 82.7 on top of it.

Rodgers is having a lot of balls dropped lately. Hard to blame him for that.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
musccy
  • musccy
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
13 years ago


Rodgers is having a lot of balls dropped lately. Hard to blame him for that.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



I'm not even saying I blame Rodgers - he doesn't have the benefit of a dome, drops have been horrendous the last 3 weeks, etc. but post season awards can be decided on sentiments. Tebow's name gets thrown around on ESPN from time to time, Brees is gaining steam.

I didn't start this thread to bash or blame Rodgers, just I think the loss coupled with strong closes and record years by other players at least make the MVP race a conversation now, IMO.
Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

I'm not even saying I blame Rodgers - he doesn't have the benefit of a dome, drops have been horrendous the last 3 weeks, etc. but post season awards can be decided on sentiments. Tebow's name gets thrown around on ESPN from time to time, Brees is gaining steam.

I didn't start this thread to bash or blame Rodgers, just I think the loss coupled with strong closes and record years by other players at least make the MVP race a conversation now, IMO.

Originally Posted by: musccy 


A lot of the public votes are already in. People would have to stop voting for Rodgers and the voting for Brees would have to pick up.

I would expect the media and the players to understand the game a little better.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
porky88
13 years ago
This is too much of a reaction to one week. New Orleans doesn't play well outside of dome stadiums. I can't be the only person that sees this. The passing yardage record isn't a big deal. The Packers beat the Saints earlier in the year. The Saints may end up as the No. 3 seed in the NFC. There isn't enough there unless the Packers collapse and finish 13-3.

Brees would be lucky to get 10 out of 50 votes right now. Frankly, if Denver finishes 11-5, Tim Tebow may end up with more votes than Brees. Now that opens up a can of new worms. Rodgers will win it, though. This week was the exception to an outstanding season.
DoddPower
13 years ago
Rodgers will probably win it, but to derail the thread, the Saints are playing much better football in the past couple of weeks. Brees is peaking. They almost have as many weapons as the Packers, and can get more pressure on the QB. Their defense has left a lot to be desired, but at least they get more pressure than the Packers. Either the Packers pick it up going into the playoffs, or it would not be surprising to see a loss to the Saints.
RedSoxExcel
13 years ago

If Aaron Rodgers doesn't win the MVP, then something is very wrong with the voting process. Drew Brees is playing well, but Rodgers is having one of the greatest single seasons in history. The yardage stat is overrated in today's NFL. Dan Marino's 5,000-plus yard season in the mid 80s is always going to be more impressive than 5,000 yards in today‘s NFL. I think most levelheaded voters will see it that way.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Same could be said about most QB statistics these days though. I still think QB rating is one of the most overrated statistics in all of sports, along the lines of Wins for a pitcher. I think Tony Romo is the #2 highest rated QB of all time, that should tell you enough about the QB rating. Yards is the most ridiculous though, I will give you that, 3,000 yards in a season is basically a given now.
blank
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
3000 yards in a season is less than 190 yards per game.
UserPostedImage
Users browsing this topic
Fan Shout
Martha Careful (2h) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (2h) : Agree
dfosterf (3h) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (3h) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (3h) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
Mucky Tundra (8h) : @jalenreagors They’re discussing if Sheduer can go back to college on NFL Network LMFAOOOOO
beast (10h) : Great point Martha
beast (10h) : Buddy Ryan used to say if a candy bar goes missing, there are two to blame, Rex and Rob 🤪 jk 😁
Martha Careful (12h) : Bum Phillips used to say there are two ways to get better. Get better players or get players to play better. We have a new DL coach
Zero2Cool (13h) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (13h) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (15h) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (17h) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (17h) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (17h) : 4rd
dfosterf (17h) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (17h) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
Martha Careful (17h) : Sorry to bitch, but the headline writers in that section absolutely mislead, or don't know how to read. It is maddening
Martha Careful (17h) : No thanks. Not a dependable guy to be in the right place and run the right route. Dumb as a box of rocks.
Zero2Cool (18h) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
TheKanataThrilla (19h) : Pickens for Jaire may be interesting. Definitely not sure we want Pickens long term.
dfosterf (19h) : No.Absolutely not
Zero2Cool (19h) : NO NO NO NO NO NO!!1 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
dhazer (19h) : scenario: Our main prospects are off the board when our pick comes around, do we just throw a 2nd round pick at Pittsburgh for Pickens
TheKanataThrilla (19h) : Hopefully she had some comfort that her son will be live his dream when she passed away. Sad news.
Mucky Tundra (20h) : Damn that sucks
Zero2Cool (20h) : News about Derrick Harmon mom, saddening.
Zero2Cool (22h) : Mark Murphy: "I predict we will trade up once and down twice."
beast (23h) : Rip the Packers and getting the fans yelling and booing him
beast (23h) : Super competitive Bears fan and WWE "superstar" wrestler, Seth Rollins is supposed to announce a Bears pick and absolutely rip Packers
packerfanoutwest (25-Apr) : Golden
beast (25-Apr) : I want DT Derrick Harmon, Oregon
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : And I can't be looking at my phone
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : Hey I'm at work lol
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : btw, new site chat won't delete auto like
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : because everyone left like wimps
TheKanataThrilla (24-Apr) : I am wondering if there is some type of autoclear when there isn't activity after a certain amount of time.
Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : What happened in the chat? Me and Zero posted a few things earlier and they're all gone
dfosterf (24-Apr) : 10-15 min bs plus flyover
dfosterf (24-Apr) : Yes
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : 7pm is when this kicks off????
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : I told him. IT'S VONTE MACK , no matter what!
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : He asked me who I thought The Browns were taking.
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : 2. Would of had to wear Browns gear all week. NOPE I'll watch from my living room.
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : He wanted to know if I would go. 2 things, would have had to fly from Detroit to Green Bay. Nope
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : All expense paid trip to the draft. He will be in the Browns section. I told him to say hi to J-10VE for me 😃😃i
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : For a call from my nephew, he won an sllexp
TheKanataThrilla (24-Apr) : Hope to see everyone in the Chat tonight!!! Go Pack Go!!!
TheKanataThrilla (24-Apr) : Jeanty would be a great pick-up for the Bears. I see Warren mocked to them as well who I think would be a great selection.
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : GameDay Chat is open. Posting bits an tids in there.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
6m / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

29m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

45m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

56m / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

24-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

24-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

24-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.