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macbob
Veteran Member

13 years ago

🇲🇲 has pretty much abandoned the run until we have a sizable lead.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

[duh]

Oh, please. Don't let reality get in the way of your fantasies, zombie.

MM has been calling the games VERY nicely this year, with fairly balanced attacks. And no, he hasn't abandoned the run until we have a sizable lead. Here's the splits from ESPN for Pass Attempts and Run Attempts, based on being ahead 15-21 pts, ahead 1-7 pts, behind 1-7 pts, and behind 15-21 pts:

Lead/behind	PA	RA	Pass/Run ratio
Ahead 15-21	58	55	51/49
Ahead 1-7	166	117	58/42
Behind 1-7	62	41	60/40
Behind 15-21	22	9	70/30

As you can see from the splits, being ahead 1-7 pts he has a very healthy 58/42% Pass/run ratio, and behind 1-7 pts it only goes to 60/40.

There's no way that anywhere even remotely qualifies as abandoning the run until we have a sizable lead.

Since69
Registered

13 years ago

#52

Love your sig pic macbob, but what's wrong with Rodgers' head?

zombieslayer
Registered Topic Starter

13 years ago

#53

[duh]

Oh, please. Don't let reality get in the way of your fantasies, zombie.

Mike McCarthy has been calling the games VERY nicely this year, with fairly balanced attacks. And no, he hasn't abandoned the run until we have a sizable lead. Here's the splits from ESPN for Pass Attempts and Run Attempts, based on being ahead 15-21 pts, ahead 1-7 pts, behind 1-7 pts, and behind 15-21 pts:

Lead/behind	PA	RA	Pass/Run ratio
Ahead 15-21	58	55	51/49
Ahead 1-7	166	117	58/42
Behind 1-7	62	41	60/40
Behind 15-21	22	9	70/30

Originally Posted by: macbob

Wait. Are you reading the same numbers I am?

When we've got a sizable lead is the ONLY time pass/run ratios are close. Or maybe you're agreeing with me and just being sarcastic and the sarcasm is going over my head.

And for the thousandth time, this whole argument was in a response to the statement people made that "we cannot win a Super Bowl without a good running game." Well, we've already won one and we're about to win another.

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DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#54

And for the thousandth time, this whole argument was in a response to the statement people made that "we cannot win a Super Bowl without a good running game." Well, we've already won one and we're about to win another.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

Still believing that you're Nostraslayer, huh? There are places for people like you, with locks on the doors.

I'd like to see our complete defense on the field against a good team before I start guaranteeing Super Bowl wins. But if the league allows Dbacks to hold our receivers down like the Giants got to, we're vulnerable.

zombieslayer
Registered Topic Starter

13 years ago

#55

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

The Saints and the Pats are the only teams who can stop us. There's a decent chance we'll see a rematch of the SB after the '96 season. If so, winning will make the argument that much closer that 🇦🇷 > Brady.

As for holding our receivers, then your boy Finley needs to catch the ball. Had Finley caught those key 3rd down receptions against the Giants, that game could have been completely different.

In football, just like in life, there's ALWAYS a workaround.

And I may be crazy, but I've had some pretty off beat predictions that have come true. Like taking the Giants over the Pats in the '07 SB without even taking the points. Also I said we'd win the SB with a limited running game. I think I said 3 to 1 runs and it turned out to be even less runs than I predicted. Plus, let's keep in mind that I'm the guy with the $450 bottle of Scotch. :-"

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2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#56

18 - 0 Packers beat Patriots in Super Bowl to achieve what the '07 Patriots failed to do. Reach 19 - 0!

I like'a that headline!

DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#57

And I may be crazy, but I've had some pretty off beat predictions that have come true. Like taking the Giants over the Pats in the '07 SB without even taking the points. Also I said we'd win the SB with a limited running game. I think I said 3 to 1 runs and it turned out to be even less runs than I predicted. Plus, let's keep in mind that I'm the guy with the $450 bottle of Scotch. :-"

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

I think you're good at observing things that "they" (I could have used my favorite word there) don't pick up on, and taking those observations and applying logic to make a prediction. But I'll call you Nostraslayer if it makes you feel like sharing the scotch.

zombieslayer
Registered Topic Starter

13 years ago

#58

If you're willing to come to SF, I'd share the Scotch with you and you don't even have to call me Nostraslayer. Although, it would be nice.

And yes, 19-0 would be nice. I think 🇲🇲 will make that decision on January 1st depending on how we're doing with injuries. If we're pretty healthy, 🇲🇲 will shoot for the 16th regular season win. If not, we're resting our starters in the 2nd half.

Winning a SB > shooting for 19-0.

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#59

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

Probably have to hook up in Vegas sometime.

I'm really starting to taste the 19-0, just because all my friends keep taking all their pithy little pock shots at the Packers. Back to back Super Bowls with an undefeated season in between = domination and I don't even care that we our D gives it up like 2 dollar hooker on New Year's Eve.

zombieslayer
Registered Topic Starter

13 years ago

#60

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Would love to shoot for a Vegas trip. Haven't been since 2009.

Like RaiderPride, I jumped the gun by 1 year and put $$$ on the Packers winning it all in '09. '10, we didn't have as good odds though so I didn't bother to make the Vegas trip. It was 25-1 for '09 and with that, I told Rockmolder that we'd hit the Netherlands (and I was serious) if the Packers won the SB. Mrs. Z would have loved to have some additional stamps on her passport. But alas, I was a year off.

I'm starting to taste the 19-0 too and it will be a weird thing to see 2 of the last 3 SB winners win it all with a superior O and a D that has to rely on takeaways because it can't tackle worth a damn. The '09 Saints were the same way.

Although I don't have anyone giving me shit here because they all know we're the team to beat. They also know that I love to rub it in every chance I get. (As NSD or Wade will tell you, I'm the same person on the board that I am in real life). Maybe you're too nice in real life, Dakota.

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

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