Well didn't you have the tripod of stupidity in Wilf, Chilly, and Spielman. Now that Chilly is gone, Frazier takes that leg. I'm saying Spielman sucks and he's been there a while. I'm sorry Formo, but making the NFCCG doesn't mean you're 1 player away from winning the super bowl & the Vikings have conducted themselves in that manner for many years. Drafting Peterson and Harvin in the first round and calling yourselves draft experts is pretty laughable.

This year, you'll be drafting in the top three in each round. Is there any confidence, there will be some legitimate talent added to your roster - or will they blow it again?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

So you don't necessarily agree with Limbaugh's perspectives, is what you are trying to say.... lol


(Watch and learn, boys and girls, while 'ol Foster works Vikesrule into a complete froth in this thread, lol)

I was merely asking about what he said at that time- We all know what everyone on this continent thinks about him by now, both pro and con--- Can't even ask a question around here anymore, for cripes sakes.

Observation- The top flap of the oreo cookie container with adhesive for freshness has to be the only real original thought coming out of the baby-boomer generation of engineers. It's a good one, so congrats for that. o:)

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

You Vikings fans always have to blame someone. Maybe you should blame yourselves.

I'm serious.

I understand most of the "why"- The 51 years of futility, contemporaries in the state that seem ambivalent about the whole NFL/Vikes thing, your neighbors to the east having arguably the best franchise in the entire league, coupled with a rabid fanbase...

These things breed impatience.

Chilly didn't suck, btw. You BOUGHT the idea that he did, due to impatience, listening to the national media knee-jerk reactionaries, your Puker-fan-foes.

It's the QB. It's the trenches, both sides.

AD is so much fun to watch, but he is ultimately relatively meaningless in this day and age in the NFL.

Make your QB comfy, make the other one not comfy.

JA can get 40 sacks in a year. Meaningless, and a way-over-rated stat. he can't do the d alone, and his 40 would get so lost in the shuffle of irrelevancy if you still lose because the rest of your d got carved up.

Copy the Packers. You have a long history of STEALING from the Packers, why don't you try ACTING like them- Your (Vikes) plan does not work... hello.

This is outstanding advice, imo.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

I was kind of with you foster.... right up until your first word.

You speak as if the Packers have had nothing but greatest of times in their so called "storied franchise" history.
You speak as though the late 1950's, the entire 1970's & 80's and the early 90's, never existed for the Packers, when they were pretty much the laughing stock of the NFL.
And more recently 2005, 2006 and 2008.... ya, those were more years of "title-town" legend, huh?

When the Packers are on a good run, you cheeseheads get all Kumbaya and "the Packers have always been the greatest". However....
I have been around Packer fans when the Packers sucked, the bluster is gone and all you hear is blame, blame, blame and fire him, fire him and fire him.

However, your "Chilly didn't suck" comment was really most amusing.
C'mon Dave, even you can't be serious on that one.

Originally Posted by: vikesrule 

Minnesota Vikings Franchise Encyclopedia
Playoff Record (all-time) : 19-26 (Last appearance after 2009 season)
Super Bowls Won: 0 out of 4 appearances
Championships Won: 0
Passing Leader (all-time): Fran Tarkenton - 33,098 yards
Rushing Leader (all-time): Robert Smith - 6,818 yards
Receiving Leader (all-time): Cris Carter - 12,383 yards
Winningest Coach (all-time): Bud Grant - 158 wins
Top Player by Approximate Value (all-time): Carl Eller - 192 AV

I can only speak for myself.

I went 28 years with this team in absolute, complete obscurity. My passion for this team never waivered once in any way, shape or form.

Oh, btw- I have some evidence I was not alone. Review the attendance records at Lambeau during that period, and EVERYONE stayed for all of those games-- all OF 'EM.


We Packer fans roll SO far differently than you friggin' snot-nosed upstart queenie-fair-weather-wanna-be-Norse-division crybabies.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

I love how VR loves to remind of us of our bad years. Newsflash to VR - EVERY NFL team has bad years. We had the late 50s, the entire 70s & 80s, and the early 90s, plus 2005,2006,2008.

It's so much easier to summarize the Vikings' bad years though - 1961-present.

From www.pro-football-reference.com:


Sorry to ruin your holiday season and bring that up. [suicide]

I should say something nice. Seriously. 🤔

OK, VR is a classy guy. Real nice guy. Keeps his bets. Is honest. Funny too, especially when getting under DakotaT's skin [roflmao]

There. I hope that makes you feel better, amigo. 👍

Merry Christmas! Besides Packer losses [neener] , I hope you get what you want. 😇

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer