i have no idea! he should be GONE too! and his stupid father should be strung up as well. anybody & i mean ANYBODY who stood idly by & let this continue should be fired & prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. doubt that will actually happen but we shall see.

Zero, get over yourself on Mcleary - that's like fondeling minnows when we're fishing for pike. There are rumors coming out now that the Second Mile Foundation was pimping out young boys to wealthy contributors.

http://bit.ly/tiatUG 

Take a listen to Mark Madden, who broke this story 7 months ago.

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Finally, the truth comes out. You don't care about accountability as much as you care about pounding your chest while you target the biggest fish!

Witness a little boy being raped? DakotaT says that's okay to not report it to the police, but dammit we better ridicule and blast the shit out of his boss!!

Idiot. Your mentality is exactly what is wrong with this country. Yet, you think its rational people that are a the problem? So ask yourself, who needs to get over themselves? Here's a tip, check the coward in the mirror for the answer.

I have nothing to get over. I know I'm a nothing, a nobody and have accepted my place in this world. I'm not the one who is screaming for pitch forks in the face of the "biggest fish" rather than the most accountable. Think about that.

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No kidding. I mean, how do you witness something like that and do nothing and report nothing to the police?

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I'm so sorry you are unable to connect the dots without a roadmap Zero. You keep glued to the story and it all come to you eventually.

As far as saying it's OK not to report the crime - WTF does that mean? I said that is a very small piece to this scandal. Let's just use Mcleary as a fall guy and then the world can be flat again and everyone can sleep well. Not this fucking time - it's going all the way to the top.

Zero the story is the coverup which ties directly to the big Fish Paterno.

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Wrong, the story is innocent boys being violated by a man they trusted in the most violating manner. Weak shallow minded head hunting folks will of course target the 'cover up' as the big story. These horrific events are bigger than football, bigger than the university and clearly bigger than a cover up by a bunch of self preserving dickless cowards.

As for the cover up, again, who actually claims to have witnessed the assault and failed to report it to the police? Yeah, that's okay by you, since McQueary passed the buck to Joe Paterno who passed the buck to Spanier who did nothing, just like those preceding him. Of the aforementioned, the biggest name is Paterno.

It started with McQueary claiming to witness the assault and doing nothing about it. Sorry, someone WITNESSING a boy being raped is a SMALL piece of this whole thing??? How about you tell that boy who is now a man that theory and see how he and his family respond.


Wait, why do I inject logical thinking, common sense and facts??? Surely I just need to get over myself!

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Historical moment #1: Walk by shower, see adult sodomizing kid.
Appropriate response: (1) Beat crap out of said adult if possible. Otherwise (e.g. said adult looks like a DT and you struggle with 12-oz curls): (2) run/call/get policeman as fast as effing possible.
Go to your boss before you go to the police: FAIL.
Employment policy that suggests go to boss before police: FAIL.

Historical moment #2: Someone comes to you, having not taken the appropriate response at historical moment #1.
Appropriate response: Run and beat crap out of said adult if possible. Otherwise run/call/get police as fast as possible.
Passing it up to your boss: FAIL.

Historical moment #3: You observe scumbag indicted. Very well-written indictment details claims of scumbuggery at historical moment #1. Prosecutor, CNN, ESPN, and the Pope decry scumbuggery by scumbag.
Appropriate response: Wait for justice system to do its thing. If it does, and indictment proves to be not only well-written but true as to facts, castrate said convict and send him away for 1000 years.

Historical moment #4: You observe, today, people alleged to be observers and FAILers at historical moment #1 or #2. You read very well-written indictment from historical moment #3. You, however, are not a victim or the representative of a victim, but just an ordinary citizen.
Appropriate response: Wait for justice system to do its thing. If it does, and people alleged to be observers and FAILers, decry them as scumbags and scumbag enablers. Support and applaud those suing the crap out of said scumbags and enablers.

I think everyone agrees on #1 and #2.

On #3 and #4, I'm with the minority, at least on the principles. I think Rourke has it right. Sorry, Dave and Troy, on #3 and #4 I think you are wrong.

Of course I'm wrong along with you, since while the reasoning part of me that cares about principles might agree with Rourke, my gut still controls my primary reaction.

And that, too, is one of the reasons the constitutional protections have to be there. Not just to protect us from the abuses of the government, but to protect us from our own gut impulses to beat the crap out of scumbags.

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A major "bar-room-brawl" was reported to me by one of the regulars at my local watering hole.

I was at my work.

According to him, the Paterno apologists had 12, the moralists had 19.


He said the cops had 16, after all was said and done.

What if you killed the wrong one?

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