Porforis
13 years ago
During this time, the following has happened.

ARod has 38 TDs and 7 INTs.
The Packers D has 29 INTs. In addition to this, in 4 games an INT sealed the game for the Packers when the opponents were driving for the winning score. In two other games, the opponent's final drive ended in an INT (but the game wasnt within one score). Also, the Giants' last 4 possessions in a game vs. GB were INT, INT, INT, ran out of time. The Packers' D has 12 interceptions in the 4th quarter in these 14 games.
This year the Packers are 31st in the league at Pass D, giving up almost 300 yards a game.
The scoring by quarter is also interesting:
1st: 115 for Packers-48 for opponents
2nd: 134-104
3rd: 106-34
4th: 96-89

Other thoughts on the NFL:
This last week was upside-down for the teams with the highest home-away win percentage. As NE and SD lost at home. And Balt,SF, Atl, Cincy, and Green Bay won on the road.

Take out Minnesota, and the AFC and NFC north are a combined 36-17.
The AFC and NFC west have a combined one team over .500 (San Fran who is 5 games up in the division already).
Packers_Finland
13 years ago
Our pass D may be terrible this year, but at least they're clutch as hell.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Our pass D may be terrible this year, but at least they're clutch as hell.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland 



Pass defense gave up two long scoring drives facilitated via passing with 8 minutes left in the game after holding a 21 point lead. I would think with 21 points up, 8 minutes left, you pin your ears back and murder death bitch slap the QB silly if you're clutch.

Charlie Peprah's interception was a gift because God doesn't like quarterbacks drafted by dhazer in fantasy football.
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Packers_Finland
13 years ago

Pass defense gave up two long scoring drives facilitated via passing with 8 minutes left in the game after holding a 21 point lead. I would think with 21 points up, 8 minutes left, you pin your ears back and murder death bitch slap the QB silly if you're clutch.

Charlie Peprah's interception was a gift because God doesn't like quarterbacks drafted by dhazer in fantasy football.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Clutch D = stop opposing offenses when they're driving to tie you, or take the lead. Saints game, Vikings game and even the Steelers' last drive in the Super Bowl last year were stopped by a clutch defense.
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dfosterf
13 years ago
I live in a crazy world. A lad at my work is starting Tim Tebow over Tom Brady this week in FF, and it makes sense.

Heal, Neal, heal !

Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Clutch D = stop opposing offenses when they're driving to tie you, or take the lead. Saints game, Vikings game and even the Steelers' last drive in the Super Bowl last year were stopped by a clutch defense.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland 



If the defense was clutch, they would not have needed a stop at the end of the game to win it, as they did have a 21 point cushion with 8 minutes left in the game.

Saints game, how many points did the "clutch" defense give up?
Vikings game, against a rookie QB making his first start?
Super Bowl game, was last season, different year, different season, different team.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
So basically, "clutch" means that you can fuck up as badly as you want for the first 59 minutes of the game, but as long as you somehow redeem yourself in the last second, it's okay?

Please give me a defense -- or a quarterback, for that matter -- that isn't clutch but can figure out how to put together 60 minutes of consistently solid football.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

So basically, "clutch" means that you can fuck up as badly as you want for the first 59 minutes of the game, but as long as you somehow redeem yourself in the last second, it's okay?

Please give me a defense -- or a quarterback, for that matter -- that isn't clutch but can figure out how to put together 60 minutes of consistently solid football.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Under said definition, Tim Tebow showed against the Dolphins he is a clutch QB, right?
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Packers_Finland
13 years ago

So basically, "clutch" means that you can fuck up as badly as you want for the first 59 minutes of the game, but as long as you somehow redeem yourself in the last second, it's okay?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Define "clutch" in terms of sports for me. I would define it like this: improving your level of play late in the game when the score is close.

Robert Horry wasn't a superstar in the NBA. Yet, he is remember as being a very clutch player because of his late game 3-pointers.

So yes, you can be clutch even if you don't play well for the first 55 minutes, if you get shit done when it matters. This defense may give up a crapload of points but they haven't allowed an opponent to tie or take the lead in the 4th quarter for a long time, even though opponents have had chances to do that. And no, it does not matter that it's the defense's fault that the game is close to begin with, in terms of "clutch". If they up their play in the final moments and stop the opposing team from tying or taking the lead, I think they can be considered clutch.

Clutch =/= Dominant

Also, you seem to think I said it's "okay" our defense is like this. I don't think so, they definitely need to get it together. I'm just trying to look at some positives of the defense instead of succumbing to despair like some of you guys are (yes I know this sentence is a bit of hyperbole).

Under said definition, Tim Tebow showed against the Dolphins he is a clutch QB, right?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Given that he only did that once so far, I wouldn't define him clutch yet, but if he did that every time the game was close late in the game, then yes, he would be clutch.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
[wtf] =/= [wtf]
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