zombieslayer
13 years ago

I disagree, if you want four wives, the states attorney should start legal proceedings into your 90 day committal to the state mental institution for a complete evaluation.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Since when is masochism illegal?
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dfosterf
13 years ago
The gay guys should definitely get full marriage rights, imo. After all, at least one of them is allowing some other dude to stick his dick square up his ass. Hell, they ought to give the poor fucker a medal for that, lol

Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
In all fairness, studies show that less than 25 percent of gay men engage in anal sex ever, and even fewer practice it on a regular basis (at least once a month). Still, thanks for making me laugh out loud. That's worth a slapnuts at least.

Just to clarify what I said above, I am not opposed to gay rights per se. In other words, I don't think sexual orientation should have an effect on civil rights. Gays should be in the military, they should adopt, they should be able to do anything else anyone else can do, since the law should be neutral and blind when it comes to things like sexual orientation. When I said I don't support gay marriage, I meant that I don't support the licensing of any kind of marriage. For me to support gay marriage would be to tacitly legitimize government regulation of marriage, which I decline to do.

Incidentally, the Catholic Encyclopedia   states: ". . . contracts, which affect social and civil life, are subject to state authority, so that this can make such regulations and restrictions even as to their validity, as it deems necessary for the public weal." It states elsewhere  even more directly: "It is historical fact that the Church always recognized the right of the State to legislate in certain respects concerning marriage, on account of its civil effects." My disagreement with this notion is just another way I make for a naughty Catholic.

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13 years ago
And of course there's that (mutter, mutter) Romans 13 problem, too.

(mutter)
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Except I didn't apply for a marriage license, so I am not technically breaking the law. 😝

As I said earlier, I am not opposed to all government regulation of marriage. The entire point of government is to protect the innocent and ensure justice, so the State certainly has an interest in preventing fraud, deception, and coercion. Nonconsensual bigamy, marriage of prepubescent children, and nonconsensual arranged marriages are all situations that render a marriage null and void and are valid grounds for the State to intervene.

Perhaps that is what the Church really means when it says the State has the right to regulate marriage. I am not sure how long it believes the arm of government should be in this matter. I find it inconsistent that the Church would say the State would have a controlling interest in marriage, considering the Church teaches that the only two things required for a valid marriage are mutual consent and witnesses. The blessing of a priest, though desirable, is not required for a marriage to be held valid in the eyes of the Church, which teaches that it is the man and woman, not the person who presides over the ceremony, who marry each other.
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vegOmatic
13 years ago
I don't care what people do behind closed doors but I resent any notion of having to pay benefits for same-sex unions if they're government workers or similar situations.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a lifestyle choice, not a right.

Many people are for it merely because the religious nuts are against it for moral reasons. Just because they're nuts doesn't mean their opinion is wrong. With me it's not about morals, it's another demographic looking for a free ride on my wallet.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Why don't you resent the notion of paying for benefits for opposite-sex unions?

That's my whole point -- the government shouldn't be subsidizing any sort of union.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

Why don't you resent the notion of paying for benefits for opposite-sex unions?

That's my whole point -- the government shouldn't be subsidizing any sort of union.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Agreed.

And I'll take it one step further - the government shouldn't be rewarding behavior, period. For example, there are tax breaks for married people and tax breaks for each child. Both stupid. That's rewarding behavior. We pay you to get married & breed. Lame.

(Of course I'm for the complete abolition of the IRS and for having 0 income tax, just a National Sales Tax, but that's another can of worms).
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13 years ago



(Of course I'm for the complete abolition of the IRS and for having 0 income tax, just a National Sales Tax, but that's another can of worms).

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




Well, you have it half correct.

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And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

Well, you have it half correct.

[grin1]

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Heh. Always good to know there's someone more extreme than I am. 🖐
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