DakotaT
13 years ago

Well said.

As for your last paragraph, gay males make more money than straight males. That's why they have nice shit.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




You two are boneheads. The difference is that being born gay gives you no choice at all; therefore, you are being discriminated against. Just like being born black, hispanic, asian, white - you had no choice. Whereas a learned behavior, you had a choice in the matter; and the choice you made had consequences. In most states you can't get married so you'll have to get off your ass and fight for your rights. Or you can freeload in the states where the ground work has been laid.

The reason gay men have nice shit is that first of all they don't have a scrapbooking spouse, unless one of them is really gay; and of course they are not hanging around bars with the boys drinking like stupid asses all sharing one brain.

I reiterate - Zero and Zombie are boneheads - it must be Z thing.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

You two are boneheads. The difference is that being born gay gives you no choice at all; therefore, you are being discriminated against. Just like being born black, hispanic, asian, white - you had no choice. Whereas a learned behavior, you had a choice in the matter; and the choice you made had consequences. In most states you can't get married so you'll have to get off your ass and fight for your rights. Or you can freeload in the states where the ground work has been laid.

The reason gay men have nice shit is that first of all they don't have a scrapbooking spouse, unless one of them is really gay; and of course they are not hanging around bars with the boys drinking like stupid asses all sharing one brain.

I reiterate - Zero and Zombie are boneheads - it must be Z thing.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Learned behavior? Are you serious with this? Falling in love with someone of the same sex is a "learned behavior"?? And you call me a bonehead?

So much for "the heart wants what the heart wants" EXCEPT if the heart wants the same sex!!!
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Learned behavior? Are you serious with this? Falling in love with someone of the same sex is a "learned behavior"?? And you call me a bonehead?

So much for "the heart wants what the heart wants" EXCEPT if the heart wants the same sex!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Well I love you, but I don't want to suck your cock or marry you! And yes, you're still a bonehead, that I would like take behind the woodshed and beat mercilessly almost on a daily basis.

A lot of lesbians became that way becuase they were abused in some fashion. That is learned behavior (they choose to be lesbians). Are we clear, can I explain it any more simply than that, Dumbass?
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Well I love you, but I don't want to suck your cock or marry you! And yes, you're still a bonehead, that I would like take behind the woodshed and beat mercilessly almost on a daily basis.

A lot of lesbians became that way becuase they were abused in some fashion. That is learned behavior (they choose to be lesbians). Are we clear, can I explain it any more simply than that, Dumbass?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Females whom were abused in some fashion are far more likely to be promiscuous with men than flipping to the same team. Being abused is not a learned behavior, it's a tragic unfortunate event in ones life.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

You two are boneheads. The difference is that being born gay gives you no choice at all; therefore, you are being discriminated against. Just like being born black, hispanic, asian, white - you had no choice. Whereas a learned behavior, you had a choice in the matter; and the choice you made had consequences. In most states you can't get married so you'll have to get off your ass and fight for your rights. Or you can freeload in the states where the ground work has been laid.

The reason gay men have nice shit is that first of all they don't have a scrapbooking spouse, unless one of them is really gay; and of course they are not hanging around bars with the boys drinking like stupid asses all sharing one brain.

I reiterate - Zero and Zombie are boneheads - it must be Z thing.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



What part of gay males make more money than straight males don't you understand? Hmm...

OK, let me explain it another way. Studies have shown that gay males have higher salaries than straight males.

Or I could phrase it another way. Gay males earn more yearly income than straight males.

Or maybe this way. Gay males have larger paychecks than straight males.

Hope one of those you understood. It has nothing to do with a spouse spending all of their money.

And no, Zero & I get it. It's a free country. Whether or not you're born gay or if it's a choice, it shouldn't matter.
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13 years ago
My feeling is that God gave us free will. That means we ought to be free to choose whatever hell we want.

I also believe that God cares far less about what we do with our dangly bits (or don't do with them) than we do.

I think the pursuit of gay sex and gay relationships can be a form of idolatry (and hence sinful), but the same is true of hetero sex and hetero relationships. Much of what people label "love"is I expect sinful in God's eyes. But not because of the mechanics used, but because of the state of mind reflected.

I also think there's no way I can or should be judging peoples' state of mind just because they happen to profess their homosexuality, any more than I should be judging peoples' state of mind because they admit to liking redheads or women with small breasts.

And as an anarchist, I see no reason why the state needs to be involved at all in deciding who gets married and who doesn't.

I understand why we might need to have fishing or hunting licenses (namely to prevent the tragedy of the commons). I fail to understand why we need to have marriage licenses if the people involved are "adult" and consenting.

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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

It's a free country. Whether or not you're born gay or if it's a choice, it shouldn't matter.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Gay folks die for our "freedom", yet they are not afforded the opportunity to marry? I don't understand that part either, similarly to how black folks couldn't vote or exercise the freedoms the white folks could, yet they were expected to go to war an die for freedoms they could not have?


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Pack93z
13 years ago
To me.. the concept of not allowing them to join in the legal definition of marriage is absurd.

The church and afterlife can have there say independently from the legalities of this country..

The hypocrisy of any government that will label "Under God" from the pledge of Allegiance as nothing more than "ceremonial and patriotic nature", cannot justifiably cite any religious connotations to gay marriage. You can't have it both ways.

We have wasted probably billions of dollars in this country on this topic, that has really no reason to be an issue for the government to rule upon.

It is not our fight as a union to decide.. two adults should be able to form a marriage freely if both consent.. regardless of sex, race or religion.

But pressure from religious voters sways the self serving politician in seeking re-election.
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DakotaT
13 years ago



And no, Zero & I get it. It's a free country. Whether or not you're born gay or if it's a choice, it shouldn't matter.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




No, Zero and Zombie incredibly boneheaded, but because you are also bullheaded - I give up trying to educate you. If you think you live in a free country than that is all the proof I need to call you a Dumbass.

But remember - you're still my boy. We'll call you Fez.
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DakotaT
13 years ago



But pressure from self righteous religious voters sways the self serving politician in seeking re-election.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




I thought you needed a few more adjectives.


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