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CaliforniaCheez
13 years ago
WEEK 2

NFC

First Round Bye
1) Redskins (5) (Greater Strength of Victory than Lions)
2) Lions (8) (higher combined conf points ranking than Packers)

Division Winners
3) Saints (12) (Strength of Victory > 49'ers and Falcons)
4) 49'ers (3) (Better division winning % than Cardinals)

Wild Cards
5) Packers (6) (Better winning % than Cowboys)
6) Cowboys (9) (Greater Strength of Schedule than the Bears)

The Rest in Order:
7) Bears (2) (Head to Head win over Falcons)
8) Falcons (15) (Greater Strength of Victory than Eagles)
9) Eagles (1) (Higher combined points ranking than Cardinals)
10) Cardinals (7) (Conf combined pts ranking > Buccaneers)
11) Buccaneers (Better conf combined pts ranking than Giants)
12) Giants (13) (Better winning % than Panthers)
13) Panthers (Greater Strength of Schedule than vikings)
14) vikings (10) (better conf combined pts ranking than Seahawks)
15) Seahawks (14) (better conf combined pts ranking than Rams)
16) Rams (16)


Notes:

-The number in parentheses indicates last week's playoff position.
-The Panthers and Buccaneers were a coin toss decision between 4th and 11th last week. No last week ranking appears.
-The Packers are 2-0 in conference games and Lions 1-0 but conference winning percentage is the same.
-The Packers have more conference net points than Lions but that it not a tiebreaker for teams within a division.

-Combined Points Ranking is adding the points scored ranking to the points allowed ranking.
-Abbreviations SOV and SOS may be used for Strength of Victory and Strength of Schedule.



AFC

First Round Bye
1) Patriots (3) (div winning % > Jets; better SOV than Texans)
2) Texans (2) (better winning % than Raiders)

Division Winners
3) Raiders (4) (greater Strength of Schedule than Ravens)
4) Ravens (1) (better conf combined point ranking than Bengals)

Wild Cards
5) Jets (9) (greater strength of victory than Bills)
6) Bills (5) (greater winning % than Jaguars)

The rest in order:
7) Jaguars (7) (head to head win over Titans)
8) Titans (10) (greater strength of victory than Chargers)
9) Chargers (8) (better division winning % than Broncos)
10) Broncos (11) (head to head win over Bengals)
11) Bengals (6) (head to head win over Browns)
12) Browns (12) (greater conference winning % than Steelers)
13) Steelers (15) (greater winning % than Dolphins)
14) Dolphins (13) (better conf combined points ranking than Chiefs)
15) Chiefs (16) (greater strength of schedule than Colts)
16) Colts (14)
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beast
13 years ago
It will be interesting to see which teams remain undefeated. Two teams from the NFC North and three teams from the AFC East (two of which have a game against each other)


List of undefeated (and who they play next)

NFC
Packers (Bears)
Lions (Vikings)
Redskins (Cowboys)

AFC
Patriots (Bills)
Bills (Pats)
Jets (Raiders)
Texans (Saints)


Packers vs. Bears is gonna be a battle.

Patriots vs. Bill is a battle of two undefeated, it will be interesting if the Bills can get things rolling along. It'd be nice to see Bills winning again after losing for so long.
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CaliforniaCheez
13 years ago
Thanks Chiefs for getting blown out by the Lions.
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polargrizz
13 years ago

WEEK 2

NFC

First Round Bye
1) Redskins (5) (Greater Strength of Victory than Lions)
2) Lions (8) (higher combined conf points ranking than Packers)

Division Winners
3) Saints (12) (Strength of Victory > 49'ers and Falcons)
4) 49'ers (3) (Better division winning % than Cardinals)

Wild Cards
5) Packers (6) (Better winning % than Cowboys)
6) Cowboys (9) (Greater Strength of Schedule than the Bears)

The Rest in Order:
7) Bears (2) (Head to Head win over Falcons)
8) Falcons (15) (Greater Strength of Victory than Eagles)
9) Eagles (1) (Higher combined points ranking than Cardinals)
10) Cardinals (7) (Conf combined pts ranking > Buccaneers)
11) Buccaneers (Better conf combined pts ranking than Giants)
12) Giants (13) (Better winning % than Panthers)
13) Panthers (Greater Strength of Schedule than vikings)
14) vikings (10) (better conf combined pts ranking than Seahawks)
15) Seahawks (14) (better conf combined pts ranking than Rams)
16) Rams (16)


Notes:

-The number in parentheses indicates last week's playoff position.
-The Panthers and Buccaneers were a coin toss decision between 4th and 11th last week. No last week ranking appears.
-The Packers are 2-0 in conference games and Lions 1-0 but conference winning percentage is the same.
-The Packers have more conference net points than Lions but that it not a tiebreaker for teams within a division.

-Combined Points Ranking is adding the points scored ranking to the points allowed ranking.
-Abbreviations SOV and SOS may be used for Strength of Victory and Strength of Schedule.



AFC

First Round Bye
1) Patriots (3) (div winning % > Jets; better SOV than Texans)
2) Texans (2) (better winning % than Raiders)

Division Winners
3) Raiders (4) (greater Strength of Schedule than Ravens)
4) Ravens (1) (better conf combined point ranking than Bengals)

Wild Cards
5) Jets (9) (greater strength of victory than Bills)
6) Bills (5) (greater winning % than Jaguars)

The rest in order:
7) Jaguars (7) (head to head win over Titans)
8) Titans (10) (greater strength of victory than Chargers)
9) Chargers (8) (better division winning % than Broncos)
10) Broncos (11) (head to head win over Bengals)
11) Bengals (6) (head to head win over Browns)
12) Browns (12) (greater conference winning % than Steelers)
13) Steelers (15) (greater winning % than Dolphins)
14) Dolphins (13) (better conf combined points ranking than Chiefs)
15) Chiefs (16) (greater strength of schedule than Colts)
16) Colts (14)

Originally Posted by: CaliforniaCheez 



this is pure insanity

sorry no billboards
beast
13 years ago

Thanks Chiefs for getting blown out by the Lions.

Originally Posted by: CaliforniaCheez 



I saw it coming (I mean a good Lions win... not the blown out). The Packers back-ups beat the Chiefs starters in the preseason. So the Lions starters should be able to well against them.

But I guess Lions Defensive Coordinator, Gunther Cunningham worked for the Chiefs a long time and the Chiefs accused him of tampering with one of their players while he was with the Lions. Which clearly ticked off the Lions and they used to to rally and send a message.

Also someone pointed out that the Packers seem to lack that attitude to go full speed all the time and go for the dagger to put the team away and keep going hard, and the Lions seem to have it. That might be a problem late in the season.


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beast
13 years ago

this is pure insanity

Originally Posted by: polargrizz 



we know... but it interesting... even more so starting 6 to 10 weeks into the season.
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peteralan71
13 years ago
Is this pure speculation or is there some sort of database that you use for this? I'm hoping it's the latter, but then again why are we a wildcard team when we are one of the three teams in the NFC that are yet undefeated? Only 3 teams after two weeks. Wow.
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gbguy20
13 years ago

Is this pure speculation or is there some sort of database that you use for this? I'm hoping it's the latter, but then again why are we a wildcard team when we are one of the three teams in the NFC that are yet undefeated? Only 3 teams after two weeks. Wow.

Originally Posted by: peteralan71 




he explains everyone of his rankings and how they were calculated.
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CaliforniaCheez
13 years ago

Is this pure speculation or is there some sort of database that you use for this? I'm hoping it's the latter, but then again why are we a wildcard team when we are one of the three teams in the NFC that are yet undefeated? Only 3 teams after two weeks. Wow.

Originally Posted by: peteralan71 



1) It is the application of the NFL's tie breaking proceedures. There may be 3 undefeated teams but the NFL always has a way of breaking the tie (even if it is a coin flip).

2) If you apply the tiebreaking proccedures with the currently undefeated Lions, the Lions prevail based on their points scored and points allowed rankings (note last week's blowout win against the Chiefs).

3) Every week I update the scores and touchdowns scored in each game to keep the data current. As long as I am doing that; I create this weekly thread for the entertainment of board members.

4) During the first few weeks of the season things change rapidly and this thread has little value the following Tuesday. Much depends on scheduling (The Lions still have to play the Saints and the Packers have yet to play the Chiefs).

5) This doesn't get serious until about midseason. What this does is give you a little bit different perspective on where teams are instead of power rankings. I'm not suggesting the Packers are going to the 49'ers for a wild card playoff game anytime soon. But if you were a 49'er or Saints fan it could cheer you up being 1-1. As a Packers fan it may keep you a little more grounded in reality.

6) The truth can hurt, cheer you up, or just be funny. Much of humor is a different perspective with some truth to it.

Have some humor when you look at this weekly thread and take it with a grain of salt. For example the Bills are 2-0 and just won against the Raiders(1-1) last week yet if the playoffs were held this week the Raiders would host the Bills. Look for the fun in it for awhile.




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GermanGilbert
13 years ago

this is pure insanity

Originally Posted by: polargrizz 



To be honest, I really like this "insanity". Keep posting, CalCheez, I enjoy and appreciate it every week.

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