Did the Packer Defence really Suck?

Not according to Raji:

"The problem is when you play Drew Brees, he's going to get a few on you," said Packers defensive lineman B.J. Raji. "He made some throws and I was like, 'Jesus.' But he's a Hall of Fame quarterback who does that to a lot of defenses. Luckily we have our own Hall of Fame quarterback in the making."

So there! All of you fucking bitching bastards in game day chat!

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I agree. Defense held up. Remember, we didn't have Neal. We also didn't have Tramon at the end. Brees is an all time great QB. He's gonna light it up against alot of teams. Just like Kurt Warner did in Arizona.
Now the Special Teams, they sucked. And they suck consistently, including against teams that suck.

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Limited pass rush hurt. Yes Brees is Brees but if our defense is suppose to be stellar then they need to limit those opportunities. I was not impressed with Shields. He got beat several times and got dusted on the TD because he simply got beat. Happy overall, not overly impressed. The need to improve to repeat.

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Great QB's make plays. Read the New Orleans paper and the people are all over their defense. Aaron Rodgers hit some passes that were well defensed.

The Patriots game last year was high scoring.

The game reminded me a lot of the record breaking Monday Night game against the Redskins on October 17, 1983 where over 90 points were scored. The defenses weren't bad, the offenses were that good.

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I agree with all of you. Not only are these both extremely high-powered offenses, top 5 in the league for sure, but they didn't have any game tape to go off of and each team had two masterminds that had been scheming since February (Or January for the Saints, sorry Sean!). I knew that we both had good defenses but ultimately the offenses would prevail.

My gripe is the 3 and out that we had at the end of the 4th to give them the opportunity to win the game. Two telecasted runs and one horrible, HORRIBLE pass play. Granted, I think that the pass was off and was not supposed to twirl Kuhn around, I was as pisses as MM when it happened though. Still am. Don't pass the ball to somebody on your side of the line, we make the same mistake all the time. In a situation like that, don't test the waters in that way.

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No the Packers defense didn't suck.. they went against a top 3 offense in the NFC and a Pro Bowl QB with a boatload of weapons and a coach that can call an offensive game. The Packers for the most part won the battle at the LOS.. and coverage for the most part was decent.. just some really good throws and play designs to target the seams of the defense.

While Shields didn't provide flawless coverage, it wasn't a poor game on his part.

Personally.. it was a well designed and called game from the Saints, they put the Safeties in tight spots and forced them to commit on at least two TD's leaving the corners hung out to dry. Collins got sucked up on the touchdown on Williams.. same with the TD over Shields.

However that really isn't a "error" on the safeties part.. it is good playcalling and design on Peyton's part.. the Saints have a fine offense and they won their share of battles against the Packers D. I would not want to face the Saints on turf with that offense.. but it would put more of our speed on display.

The NFC, IMO, is going to be a very good three team race.. Saints, Falcons and Packers on offense.. should be a fun year to watch how it shakes out.

Round one to Packers.

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No.

I'm sorry, but hall of fame qb or not...our defense sucked. Really hard. And I'm still pissed that our best safety took out our best cornerback for god knows how much of the rest of the season.

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So what is Collins to do.. not tackle the opposing receiver? Injuries happen in this game.. by the design of the game.

And apparently I was watching a different game.. one in which the offense forced much of the opportunities they got in the passing game. If all things are equal with the game rules currently as they are.. the offense has the advantage and should win.

IMO.. the Saints offense has that many options available and have tested many a team over the last couple years.

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Ok. Were you watching the same game where our defense essentially let the game go nearly punt-less? That's what I'd call "suck". Oh, and what is Collins to do? Hmmm, maybe not take out the best cornerback on your own team. That would be a great place to start.

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McCarthy was mainly pissed off because Finley was being bear hugged for 15 yards down the field. I think Rodgers didn't like what he saw (I give him credit for not bitching about the no call on Finley) and dumped it to Kuhn for at LEAST a reception so the clock kept going. I thought it was a smart play by Rodgers and aggressive defense on Finley that they were lucky didn't get called.

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