nerdmann
13 years ago

Alright, Matlock, so let me get this straight: were Thompson to even consider cutting DD, at the forefront of weighing the roster spot is his balancing of whether keeping DD will be seen as going out of his way to respect a veteran? And this all comes from your serial crusher... I mean, your Favre loyalty theory?

UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: evad04 




Not really, I layed out my theories of why DD's spot could be in jeopardy way before that issue came up. But it's just one of the things which imo weights in DD's favor, at least to some degree.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Chutzpah515
13 years ago
Had Driver and Grant stayed healthy throughout last season, he would have had over 1,000 yards receiving... again. IMO Driver is still easily the third best option on the field. Had he already been surpassed by Nelson and Droppy McFumbles, would this be a realistic option. Without much of an off season, it would difficult to know what they have in West whereas DD has 12 years of proven production. Fifth WRs are a dime a dozen. How often was Swain on the field last year? Twice?
UserPostedImage
nerdmann
13 years ago

Had Driver and Grant stayed healthy throughout last season, he would have had over 1,000 yards receiving... again. IMO Driver is still easily the third best option on the field. Had he already been surpassed by Nelson and Droppy McFumbles, would this be a realistic option. Without much of an off season, it would difficult to know what they have in West whereas DD has 12 years of proven production. Fifth WRs are a dime a dozen. How often was Swain on the field last year? Twice?

Originally Posted by: Chutzpah515 




According to the postgame show, he had 6 receptions, which I believe includes the playoffs. So really, it's not that big of a deal once you get down to it. But the fact is that DD DID have those injuries last year. And he also have 12 years of wear and tear. How many more does he have in the tank? Is it better to get rid of guys a year too soon or a year too late?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

But in cutting Driver, the team would face another PR story, this one much more like Favre than Harris of last season.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


Which is another way of saying that Packers fans are just as much idiots as everyone else. The PR ramifications of keeping or cutting any player, no matter how popular, should have no role whatsoever in determining whether or not he stays on the roster this season. The PR problems are just fodder for the gossip columnists that pose as sports commentators these days anyway. On the other hand, the other points you brought up are far more salient and are, as far as I am concerned, the only ones that should factor into the final decision. Fans and sports writers have proven time and time again that they are clueless when it comes to the important decisions required to run a club. Had Ted Thompson listened to popular sentiment over the past few years, there is no way the Packers would have won the Super Bowl last year. Can you imagine what might have happened had he kept Brett Favre's rebellious spirit or Aaron Kampman and Al Harris' surgically repaired knees on the squad? It could have been disastrous.

As I have said so many times before, if -- and only if -- Donald Driver is the best man for the job, by all means keep him. There is no one in the league I love to watch go over the middle and fight for that last agonizing yard than he. If, however, some young buck could do the job as well or better than he could, axe him. The fans be damned. If he is that important as a PR ambassador, bring him on as wide receivers coach. He couldn't do worse than James Campen has done.

All of which is another way of saying: "Trust the front office that got you to the Super Bowl last year." 😣
UserPostedImage
13 years ago

This damn website raises my blood pressure to unhealthy levels. Your assessment notwithstanding, Louder at Lambeau, Driver can still play. I appreciate your completely overblown mention of his preseason performance against the Colts, as I do your personal opinion that Jennings, Jones, Nelson, & Cobb are better options at receiver. Can Cobb play every position at receiver like Driver, Jones, Jennings, and Nelson? Oh, I guess it doesn't matter, because Cobb is so damn exciting and this is such a damn exciting time.

Which leads me to Gurley. I wanna say thank you to those that have pointed out his height and 40-times. Anyone wanna take a time machine back to the day and grab workout warrior Mike Mamula? Perhaps instead we should go back to the '09 draft and trade up from the 9th pick (B.J. Raji) to swipe Darrius Heyward-Bey before the Raiders have a chance. Seems like a good strategy, knowing as we all do that the Raiders' draft strategy for the the last decade of the senile-Al Davis years have lead to a team stocked with arm strength, size, speed, and athleticism and perpetual five win seasons.

I happen to like Gurley. I happen to think he has some potential, and his wingspan is a fun little stat to the throw out. But can he make a difference in our offense like Driver can? Do you actually think he can? And if the answer is yes, are you willing to give up a player whose value to the franchise is well known? You may cite a decrease in production for Driver over the years, but do you ignore that we've added options and that now he's in the deepest offense he's been a part of since joining Green Bay? Yeah, Driver was a 1,200 receiver back in the day that the 4-6th options were guys like Bill Schroeder and Wesley Walls. When you add Jennings, Jones, Nelson and co. into the picture, and throw in a nagging quad injury, it's not shocking to see a dip in production.

This whole discussion is silly. Oh, you're offended? Well I don't give a flying diarrhea shit. It's silly.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



Who's offended? You're acting more like I raped your mom than that I advocated one WR over another. Simmer the fuck down there, you'll wet yourself.[duh]

Were you like this about Faver, Harris, Kampy, etc, too? Do you feel like a good cry? There, there. It'll be OK. Players get old. Driver will be out of football at some point, just like every other player ever to put on a uniform and every one to come, and we'll all go on with our lives. Most of us, anyway.
Pack93z
13 years ago

Which is another way of saying that Packers fans are just as much idiots as everyone else. The PR ramifications of keeping or cutting any player, no matter how popular, should have no role whatsoever in determining whether or not he stays on the roster this season. The PR problems are just fodder for the gossip columnists that pose as sports commentators these days anyway. On the other hand, the other points you brought up are far more salient and are, as far as I am concerned, the only ones that should factor into the final decision. Fans and sports writers have proven time and time again that they are clueless when it comes to the important decisions required to run a club. Had Ted Thompson listened to popular sentiment over the past few years, there is no way the Packers would have won the Super Bowl last year. Can you imagine what might have happened had he kept Brett Favre's rebellious spirit or Aaron Kampman and Al Harris' surgically repaired knees on the squad? It could have been disastrous.

As I have said so many times before, if -- and only if -- Donald Driver is the best man for the job, by all means keep him. There is no one in the league I love to watch go over the middle and fight for that last agonizing yard than he. If, however, some young buck could do the job as well or better than he could, axe him. The fans be damned. If he is that important as a PR ambassador, bring him on as wide receivers coach. He couldn't do worse than James Campen has done.

All of which is another way of saying: "Trust the front office that got you to the Super Bowl last year." ](*,)

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Ah... isn't that what the rest of the post stated.. and even in the same paragraph I noted it was a minor consideration? Like it or not.. all other things being even this has to be a consideration at the moment. If he was outplayed.. I agree... you move on. No illusions. For the record.. the PR is more internally than externally.. pressure inside the locker room.

LOL.. The points right in front have basically outlined that neither of the other receivers outplayed Driver in the preseason.

But I enjoyed your rant just the same. :)

There I didn't even Get Loud or go all Evad upon the topic. [grin1]
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
evad04
13 years ago

Who's offended? You're acting more like I raped your mom than that I advocated one WR over another. Simmer the fuck down there, you'll wet yourself.[duh]

Were you like this about Faver, Harris, Kampy, etc, too? Do you feel like a good cry? There, there. It'll be OK. Players get old. Driver will be out of football at some point, just like every other player ever to put on a uniform and every one to come, and we'll all go on with our lives. Most of us, anyway.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau 


Speaking of moms -- do you kiss your mother with that mouth? Who says I'm crying? Nice little ad hominem post there. I get pissy and fired up sometimes, but I fail to understand how I crossed any line there.

To answer your condescending question, no I wasn't like this about Favre, Harris, or Kampman too. Because I'm not a moron I know how the compared scenarios are different: those guys WERE let go. Driver isn't getting let go, and the speculation is entirely manufactured. I can give that media rant later, but I doubt you are interested.

In the meantime, if you're interested, I'd like to take a moment to review the several ways in which you're a douchebag. Ciao, baby.
William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."
13 years ago

Speaking of moms -- do you kiss your mother with that mouth? Who says I'm crying? Nice little ad hominem post there. I get pissy and fired up sometimes, but I fail to understand how I crossed any line there.

To answer your condescending question, no I wasn't like this about Favre, Harris, or Kampman too. Because I'm not a moron I know how the compared scenarios are different: those guys WERE let go. Driver isn't getting let go, and the speculation is entirely manufactured. I can give that media rant later, but I doubt you are interested.

In the meantime, if you're interested, I'd like to take a moment to review the several ways in which you're a douchebag. Ciao, baby.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



You wanna review something? Review my original post and your response. Then get back to me on who was being the douchebag between the two of us. You were the one who got all hot and bothered. I was just giving a dissenting opinion on who I like for the WR position. The douchebaggery was initiated by you. Don't believe me? Check the record, doucheypoops. Kisses!
RaiderPride
13 years ago
Wow!

I read every single comment in this thread.

Here are my thoughts... Donald is not the type of Packer that will ever be let go, or cut.

It will not happen. Never! Donald is such a class act he will simply step down on his own. He will never be CUT. He will retire. He will end it as a Packer. There will be no cut.

There will be no "One more year with another team" to prove he can still play the game. Donald has played the game, and played it as a Packer. He always will be a Packer. He played this game well enough to go to Canton. He will do it with class, and with respect for the people of Green Bay.

Donald Driver is all class. So are the Packers organization.

Donald will be "A God" in Green Bay for the rest of his life.

Unlike the feller who threw so many of the passes he caught.




""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
mi_keys
13 years ago

You were the one who got all hot and bothered.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau 



I reread Evad's post and aside from mentioning the name Jennings (I'd go gay for him) I couldn't find any reference to being horny.
Born and bred a cheesehead
Fan Shout
wpr (2h) : I thought KC already won
Zero2Cool (12h) : If you wanna post about the Super Bowl, please, by all means, open a topic. They are free this month! 😁
Zero2Cool (12h) : There doesn't need to be a topic. There's a playoff prediction thread.
packerfanoutwest (12h) : and there no SB contest over in the other Packer forum, either
buckeyepackfan (12h) : #2Officially Retires!
beast (13h) : Probably no SB topic as people are wore out talking about the Chiefs, Refs and Eagles
Zero2Cool (13h) : Packers reportedly have their new LB coach, promoting Sean Duggan to that role
Zero2Cool (17h) : WR Cooper Kupp is being traded.
packerfanoutwest (4-Feb) : why is there no SB Prediction topic?
Zero2Cool (3-Feb) : Anthony Perkins spent 2024 as a defensive quality-control coach with the Packers.
Zero2Cool (3-Feb) : Packers lose another assistant.
Zero2Cool (3-Feb) : Defensive Player of the Year and Browns star Myles Garrett has requested a trade.
Zero2Cool (3-Feb) : deleted all my browser history and autofill and passwords. gonna be fun!
packerfanoutwest (3-Feb) : too funny
packerfanoutwest (3-Feb) : Lions QB Jared Goff was the offensive MVP
packerfanoutwest (3-Feb) : for the Pro Bowl, which is flag football
Zero2Cool (2-Feb) : Rather, the murder WAS covered up to prevent ...
Zero2Cool (2-Feb) : JFK murder was a cover-up to prevent war with Cuba/Russia.
Martha Careful (1-Feb) : I have always admired the pluck of the man
Zero2Cool (1-Feb) : I remember thinking he was going to be something good.
Mucky Tundra (1-Feb) : The Dualing Banjo!
Zero2Cool (31-Jan) : Jets have named Chris Banjo as their special teams coordinator, Former Packers player
Zero2Cool (31-Jan) : Jaguars have hired Anthony Campanile as their DC. We lose coach
Zero2Cool (30-Jan) : QB coach Sean Mannion
Zero2Cool (30-Jan) : DL Coach DeMarcus Covington
dfosterf (30-Jan) : from ft Belvoir, Quantico and points south. Somber reminder of this tragedy at Reagan Nat Airport
dfosterf (30-Jan) : So eerily quiet here in Alexandria. I live in the flight path of commercial craft coming from the south and west, plus the military craft
dfosterf (30-Jan) : So eeri
Mucky Tundra (30-Jan) : Now that's a thought, maybe they're looking at the college ranks? Maybe not head coaches but DC/assistant DCs with league experience?
beast (30-Jan) : College Coaches wouldn't want that publicly, as it would hurt recruiting and they might not get the job.
beast (30-Jan) : I thought they were supposed to publicly announce them, at least the NFL ones. Hafley was from college, so I believe different rules.
Mucky Tundra (30-Jan) : Who knows who they're interviewing? I mean, nobody knew about Hafley and then out of nowhere he was hired
beast (30-Jan) : I wonder what's taking so long with hiring a DL coach, 2 of the 3 known to interview have already been hired elsewhere.
Zero2Cool (27-Jan) : Packers coach Matt LaFleur hires Luke Getsy as senior assistant, extends Rich Bisaccia's deal
Zero2Cool (27-Jan) : Chiefs again huh? I guess another Super Bowl I'll be finding something else to do.
Mucky Tundra (27-Jan) : Chiefs Eagles...again...sigh
dfosterf (27-Jan) : Happy Birthday Dave!
Mucky Tundra (27-Jan) : happy birthday dhazer
TheKanataThrilla (26-Jan) : Exactly buck...Washington came up with the ball. It is just a shitty coincidence one week later
buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : I forgot, they corrected the call a week later. Lol btw HAPPY BIRTHDAY dhazer!
buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : That brings up the question, why wasn't Nixon down by contact? I think that was the point Kanata was making.
buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : Turnovers rule, win the turnover battle, win the game.
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : well, he was
TheKanataThrilla (26-Jan) : Eagles down by contact on the fumble....fuck you NFL
Mucky Tundra (26-Jan) : I think this games over
beast (26-Jan) : Eagles sure get a lot of fumbles on kickoffs
Mucky Tundra (26-Jan) : This game looks too big for Washington
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : that being said, The Ravens are the Browns
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : Browns, Dolphins have longest AFC Championship droughts
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : As of today, Cowboys have longest NFC Championship drought,
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

1-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

1-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

25-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.