4PackGirl
13 years ago
i have days when i'm happy with who i am & days when i'm not at all happy with myself.
doesn't everyone?
sometimes i'm great at life & sometimes i totally SUCK at it.
doesn't everyone feel that way?
when i'm faced with a challenge, i try to hit it head on but sometimes i cower in the corner.
doesn't everyone?
sometimes i think decency & morals are gone but then i hear that someone did something unselfish to help another so my mind is changed for a little while.
doesn't everyone?

i don't feel unique or special at all.
i'm me because of what i've been given, what i've had taken away, & what i've gone through.
isn't everyone?
EDIT: and good gawd - now you got me all philosophical n shit. stop that porforis!!!
Porforis
13 years ago

Pride is one of the seven deadlies. So I'm not getting caught up in being proud for my suffering. We don't all piss at the same urinal, which is very apparent to me.

We've covered our country's two biggest sins of sloth and greed lately. It is very apparent our country is the biggest glutton on the planet. Lust is definately everywhere.

Envy consumes me as a wallow in what is fair and unfair about the social and financial structure our world. Some folk have it way too easy and the only way I see to fix that is instituting wrath by reinstituting guillotine justice for those top 5%ers who suck the life right out of all of us by controlling everything.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I disagree with you. While our country's problems and social woes are unique, I think the underlying issues of sloth, greed, and pride persist across all societies, they just manifest themselves in different ways. We think our issues are more severe in our country because we're constantly exposed to them through open discussion on the internet, the media, etc. Do you think people are significantly less greedy, prideful, and lazy by default in China, a country with less social freedoms? As I mentioned earlier, we are who we are based on nature and nurture. Nurture may be different, living your life in poverty and in an enviornment more hostile to open personal expression may force you to be less prideful and lazy, but what happens if you drop that person into America with a $30,000 a year job? I have no doubt this person wouldn't start out lazy, but comfort breeds laziness... It's our nature to be prideful, greedy, and lazy, and our enviornment in particular supports such a viewpoint more.

However, to say that we are simply more greedy and lazy has a bit of a tinge of lack of responsibility to me. It's a constant battle to not be selfish, but it's up to the individual to fight that, no matter where they live. That's just my opinion, though.
DakotaT
13 years ago

I disagree with you.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 




What else is new? 🤣

I notice you didn't mention anything in opposition to my guillotine justice idea. I really have a disdain for these people. The masters of wag the dog.

I wonder how much poverty could be eliminated with their combined assets, the Vatican can join them as well.
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Porforis
13 years ago

What else is new? 🤣

I notice you didn't mention anything in opposition to my guillotine justice idea. I really have a disdain for these people. The masters of wag the dog.

I wonder how much poverty could be eliminated with their combined assets, the Vatican can join them as well.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Straight up killing people? If you're serious, I think you're missing or at least completely disagree with my points. With few exceptions, I don't believe people are inherently bad or inherently evil. Straight-up killing people because their nature + nurture lead them to being greedy and they're not objective enough about themselves to realize it? Wholeheartedly disagree. Doubt you've seen it or would be interested, but this reminds me a bit of Death Note. Trying to cure the world's evils by committing evil acts with the best of intentions in order to create a more "just" world isn't going to make you a better person, or make the world a better place.
DakotaT
13 years ago

Straight up killing people? If you're serious, I think you're missing or at least completely disagree with my points. With few exceptions, I don't believe people are inherently bad or inherently evil. Straight-up killing people because their nature + nurture lead them to being greedy and they're not objective enough about themselves to realize it? Wholeheartedly disagree. Doubt you've seen it or would be interested, but this reminds me a bit of Death Note. Trying to cure the world's evils by committing evil acts with the best of intentions in order to create a more "just" world isn't going to make you a better person, or make the world a better place.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 




We don't have to kill them then, just strip them of their wealth and actually solve the basic need problems of the world they and their ancestor have looted from for centuries.

What would Jesus do? I don't think he'd be very happy at what we are.
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Porforis
13 years ago

We don't have to kill them then, just strip them of their wealth and actually solve the basic need problems of the world they and their ancestor have looted from for centuries.

What would Jesus do? I don't think he'd be very happy at what we are.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



But he wouldn't want us to force our idea of justice onto other people, even force his justice onto others. He didn't tell his disciples to kill the pharisees that were speaking lies and living large or force them to step down, he let the truth do the speaking. And when the pharisees decided that enough was enough and used their power to turn the people against him, that's when the truth became all the more powerful.

Regardless of if you're religious or not, I'd still argue that compassion should be given to the ignorant, and that using force to make the world into a place that YOU believe is more just is inherently prideful. You are making yourself judge, jury, and executioner. Which brings me back to my first post.
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

What would Jesus do? I don't think he'd be very happy at what we are.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


Enjoy. 
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Enjoy. 

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 




You are a sick man. We should have beers sometime.
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DakotaT
13 years ago


Regardless of if you're religious or not, I'd still argue that compassion should be given to the ignorant, and that using force to make the world into a place that YOU believe is more just is inherently prideful. You are making yourself judge, jury, and executioner. Which brings me back to my first post.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 




That's right, but I'm only punishing a very small percentage of people to help the masses. If you think about it, it's pretty righteous.
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IronMan
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13 years ago
The reason this world is so fucked up is because of the way we raise our kids.

You can't play dodge ball because little Timmy might get a bloody nose. "Tag" isn't allowed anymore because it might hurt the fat kid's feelings. Some schools don't give Ds or Fs because it makes kids feel stupid. Some schools don't use red ink when grading papers because red ink is too "stressfull." You can't make this shit up. No one is ever allowed to feel bad, ever.

These kids grow up to be whiney ass lazy peices of shit. Whiny ass lazy peices of shit that I have to deal with everyday. They think they are entitled to everything. Thats why this country is so far in debt. People complain about the government wasting money, but I firmly believe that people get the government they deserve. No one wants to save up to buy anything. They want everything NOW.

My philosophy, if you can't afford something, don't buy it. If you aren't ready for/can't afford to have kids, don't have them. Its not rocket science.
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