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13 years ago
Packers feeling like they're playing catch-up 

Aren't all teams in the same position?

Getting a feel for his team hasn't come easy for head coach Mike McCarthy in the early stages of training camp.

Robbed of a critical three months of offseason workouts for player development and system implementation thanks to the lockout, McCarthy and his staff have been pressed into teaching on the fly. They had to devote the first nine practices of camp to the installations for the offense and defense, leaving them just one day on the field to prep for Saturday's preseason opener at the Cleveland Browns.

In previous years, the schemes were installed during organized team activities in the spring and then reviewed at the start of training camp.

Having to start from square one this summer has created a disjointed beginning for the Packers as they set out to defend their Super Bowl title.

"We're not in football shape, and I think that's to be expected at this point in camp," McCarthy lamented.

Compounding the ragged matters is the Packers had to call their Family Night practice before a crowd of 43,048 at Lambeau Field on Saturday after only 20 minutes of action. That left the Packers with a nearly football-free weekend since McCarthy gave the players off Sunday.

Not that they minded more time away from the field, especially the older players.

"I think it can hopefully keep us fresh, even though people will say well, yeah, we've had five months off, so we should all be fresh," linebacker A.J. Hawk said.

After quarterback Aaron Rodgers and the skilled players on offense didn't bother to get together for workouts during the lockout, breakdowns in timing on pass plays came to the fore in the initial days of camp.
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nerdmann
13 years ago
Yeah like MM's gonna run the ball 20-25 times a game. LOL. I'll take the under!
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Porforis
13 years ago

Yeah like MM's gonna run the ball 20-25 times a game. LOL. I'll take the under!

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



421 rushes in the regular season last year, that's an average of 26.3 yards/game.
RaiderPride
13 years ago
WPR.

Nice read and "Thanks For Posting This." As always you are a great contributor to my read.

I think the CBS scribe who wrote this is greatly mistaken though.

The Packers never do anything on the fly. I am sure there was a plan in place based on every day of the lock out and the estimated time of the shot gun start to this season for every team in the league.

Three In A Row. That is a fact. The Packers will win three in a row.

There is no doubt in my mind. This team is too young, with too much talent, and too much brilliance from coaching to management to let this window of opportunity to slip away.

Hell... Four Super bowls would be a realistic goal.

The only thing that will up end that rolling train of Packer success is of course the return of the Raiders to greatness. Which will happen this year.

However... The Packers will win their second Super Bowl in a row in a squeaker.

Packers 34 Raiders 28
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RainX
13 years ago
Well, pretty much every team is in the same boat. Even working out together isn't necessarily a huge advantage although I'm sure it didn't hurt players to do so. I think it's to be expected you're going to see some sloppy play, especially early in the preseason.
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dhazer
13 years ago
The part I don't understand in this is how are we playing catch up, our team was just on the field a few months ago compared to other teams that hasn't been doing anything since january. We can call the core of this team (starters) all vets and should know their system, it's not like we have a new coach on offense or defense or a rookie starting some where. But then again we are playing catch up to the teams like the Saints and Jets that their leaders got their teams together during the lockout and worked together and I am sure went thru their playbooks with the rookies.

But we will see what happens, nothing counts until 9-8-11
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

421 rushes in the regular season last year, that's an average of 26.3 yards/game.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



That's not a really good yards per game at all. I would have figured Aaron Rodgers averaged more yards running than that.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

The part I don't understand in this is how are we playing catch up, our team was just on the field a few months ago compared to other teams that hasn't been doing anything since january. We can call the core of this team (starters) all vets and should know their system, it's not like we have a new coach on offense or defense or a rookie starting some where. But then again we are playing catch up to the teams like the Saints and Jets that their leaders got their teams together during the lockout and worked together and I am sure went thru their playbooks with the rookies.

But we will see what happens, nothing counts until 9-8-11

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Players turn in their playbooks at the end of the season, they don't carry them around during the off season with them. I believe this is because they may be cut or traded and obviously coaches will take pages out, add pages, etc ...


The injury risk far outweighed the reward of working out in the off season. The off season workout get togethers were media hyped, don't fall into the trap and use that thing between ya ears.
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gbguy20
13 years ago

That's not a really good yards per game at all. I would have figured Aaron Rodgers averaged more yards running than that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



i'm not sure if this was sarcasm or not but he meant carries not yards
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Greg C.
13 years ago

Players turn in their playbooks at the end of the season, they don't carry them around during the off season with them. I believe this is because they may be cut or traded and obviously coaches will take pages out, add pages, etc ...


The injury risk far outweighed the reward of working out in the off season. The off season workout get togethers were media hyped, don't fall into the trap and use that thing between ya ears.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Hey, go easy on dhazer! It's hard to find things to bitch about when your team wins a championship.

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