PackerTraxx
13 years ago
For me that would be a tough call. One of the questios I would ask myself is "would Flynn be good enough to win a SB if Aaron went down?" Assuming the answer is yes I would still keep him for insurance.
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Greg C.
13 years ago
Interesting question. Obviously a lot depends on how good Harrell looked. If he looked nearly as good as Flynn, I would say definitely Flynn should be traded if Ted can get something decent for him, like a third round draft pick. But I think it's unlikely that Harrell will play that well. I doubt that either backup QB would be likely to win a Super Bowl, although stranger things have happened.
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13 years ago
I would be very skeptical of the caliber of the competition he faced. So it would all come down to what would GB get in exchange. I prob would not agree for a #3. I would prefer a 1 or 2. (If he is going to be a starting QB I think that is the min he should go for.)
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Pack93z
13 years ago
Lets think about it in this context.. if we keep Flynn and lose him in FA.. chances are he will get a sizable increase in contract and very well may be looking as a starter. That would only help in terms of a compensation pick.. Lets say a 4th or 5th, maybe higher.

So would you trade up 2 rounds, based on a 3rd, and give up an insurance policy that we have seen step in.

For me.. I wouldn't take the risk unless the return is enough value to outweigh the safety net factor.

If Flynn and Harrell both look good this preseason, and based off Flynn's performance last season, I could see a QB needy franchise (Example Dolphins) offering up a combination of a pick and maybe a player to make a run at a Flynn and take a flyer on his limited experience. If Kolb gets you a 1st and starting corner.. whom knows what Flynn might garner.. he is younger.
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nyrpack
13 years ago
flynn showed some good things against the pats, but it was only 1 game, until we get a player who is proven, hopefully arod stays healthy and we dont get that chance, keep flynn and worry down the line !!
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
No. Not good enough.

Even as good as Flynn looked last year, let's not forget he had 7 sacks vs 66 pass attempts. I know that's a small sample but it's scary to think about. I don't see Harrell fairing better. This is an average OL, by no means elite and Harrell needs regular season game experience before I want to see him #2 QB for us.

So no. Keep Flynn, unless someone dangles a 1st (which isn't very likely except from Oakland).
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

No. Not good enough.

Even as good as Flynn looked last year, let's not forget he had 7 sacks vs 66 pass attempts. I know that's a small sample but it's scary to think about. I don't see Harrell fairing better. This is an average OL, by no means elite and Harrell needs regular season game experience before I want to see him #2 QB for us.

So no. Keep Flynn, unless someone dangles a 1st (which isn't very likely except from Oakland).

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Suggesting Oakland would give a 1st round pick for Matt Flynn is completely idiotic! Matt Flynn doesn't run a sub 4.3 40 yard dash!!



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13 years ago

Suggesting Oakland would give a 1st round pick for Matt Flynn is completely idiotic! Matt Flynn doesn't run a sub 4.3 40 yard dash!!


Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Or he isn't 50 pounds overweight. True. My bad.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

Lets think about it in this context.. if we keep Flynn and lose him in FA.. chances are he will get a sizable increase in contract and very well may be looking as a starter. That would only help in terms of a compensation pick.. Lets say a 4th or 5th, maybe higher.

So would you trade up 2 rounds, based on a 3rd, and give up an insurance policy that we have seen step in.

For me.. I wouldn't take the risk unless the return is enough value to outweigh the safety net factor.

If Flynn and Harrell both look good this preseason, and based off Flynn's performance last season, I could see a QB needy franchise (Example Dolphins) offering up a combination of a pick and maybe a player to make a run at a Flynn and take a flyer on his limited experience. If Kolb gets you a 1st and starting corner.. whom knows what Flynn might garner.. he is younger.

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Kolb was traded for Cromartie and a 2nd round pick, not a 1st round pick. Unless Flynn plays more and plays very well he will not be worth anywhere near what Kolb was worth to the Cardinals.

For comparison, here is what the Packers got in exchange for some other well-regarded backup QBs:

Mark Brunell: Traded to Jaguars for 3rd and 5th round picks.

Aaron Brooks: Traded to Saints along with TE LaMont Hall for 3rd round pick and LB K.D. Williams.

Matt Hasselbeck: Traded to Seahawks in exchange for swapping 1st round picks (Packers moving up from 17th to 10th) plus a 3rd round pick.

Flynn was drafted lower than those guys (Brunell 5th, Brooks 4th, Hasselbeck 6th) and has questionable arm strength, so I don't think he'll even be worth as much as those others were.



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