Pack93z
13 years ago
Here is the issue with allowing Harrell into camp.. if he goes down with injury again.. we are on the hook again for his salary for the season.



Personally.. if he comes to camp, if the Packers let him, and he isn't in shape and ready to go, I think one must allow him to walk out the door. If he makes it on another roster and becomes a impact player.. one really can't look at the Packers and blame them for not taking a chance again this season.



That said.. I really don't know that being on the hook for another years salary is that big of a deal. What is another 1.22 million.



Personally theory.. Harrell's cap number will be erased off the Packers books early in the league year and used elsewhere. Just a guess.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
I think I'm going out on the limb with Iron on this one. We have Pickett, Raji, and Green starting. CJ Wilson is 3rd on the depth chart, and when Neal comes back in October fully healthy; that's a 5 man rotation. Maybe one of the camp fodder guys steps up?

WTF do we need Harrell for? And we can also hope that Purple Drank isn't suspended again - cause he was a dumbass during the lockout afterall.

60% of the time, we're playing with 2 down linemen anyway. Way too much attention has been given Justin Harrell.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I think I'm going out on the limb with Iron on this one. We have Pickett, Raji, and Green starting. CJ Wilson is 3rd on the depth chart, and when Neal comes back in October fully healthy; that's a 5 man rotation. Maybe one of the camp fodder guys steps up?

WTF do we need Harrell for? And we can also hope that Purple Drank isn't suspended again - cause he was a dumbass during the lockout afterall.

60% of the time, we're playing with 2 down linemen anyway. Way too much attention has been given Justin Harrell.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Johnny Jolly I believe is as good as gone.

The point IronMan is making is very valid. I just don't feel that emotionally attached to the hatred for Justin Harrell as he does.

One thing I failed to consider is if Justin Harrell goes down in camp that the Packers are hooked for his full 1.2 million. I thought it was only his $650k salary since if he goes down in camp he won't make the roster, thus won't get the roster bonus that puts it to $1.2 million.

That brings me to this point, is 'seeing' what Justin Harrell can bring worth possibly losing $650 for him to sit on injured reserve again? I think I'd rather see that money dispersed between one or two other potential replacements, even if they were undrafted rookies.




For myself, personally, I trust Mason Crosby to make a 50+ yarder more than I trust Justin Harrell to make an impact on the Packers roster.



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Pack93z
13 years ago
Most roster bonuses are due on X day of the league calendar year, with the condensed timeline this offseason I am assuming those deadlines are going to be accelerated as well.. thus making his roster bonus due close to the outset of camp.. hence my assumption that it will be for the full 1.22 if he goes down.



On a different topic.. these player contracts should be available for public/fan consumption. lol.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Most roster bonuses are due on X day of the league calendar year, with the condensed timeline this offseason I am assuming those deadlines are going to be accelerated as well.. thus making his roster bonus due close to the outset of camp.. hence my assumption that it will be for the full 1.22 if he goes down.

On a different topic.. these player contracts should be available for public/fan consumption. lol.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I don't have much a clue how it works. I thought a roster bonus was accrued when you made the final 53. I do know that some players have a bonus if they are on the roster on a certain day of the league year. I believe Ryan Grant has his on the 15th day of the new league year.


I think the contracts are public. They used to be viewable on the NFLPA website. That's where I used to get them all the time.
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Pack93z
13 years ago
Justin Harrell.. who... lol.



Mike Neal squating 575 on a chain.. thinking this dude is going to come "unchained" this season.


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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Justin Harrell.. who... lol.



Mike Neal squating 575 on a chain.. thinking this dude is going to come "unchained" this season.


Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


Roster Bonuses have to be on Roster after 4:00 PM July 29.

Blows my thinking out of the water.
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Pack93z
13 years ago

Roster Bonuses have to be on Roster after 4:00 PM July 29.



Blows my thinking out of the water.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 





I figured that it would be accelerated... players are going to want to be "free" sooner if they are going to be cut loose.. so it makes it a win win on both sides.



Teams need cap relief.. players are going to be fishing for a new contract.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
What's this players want to be free sooner bit about? I never said otherwise, damn ... it! I said I thought roster bonuses were earned by being on the 53 man roster. I never said anything about being free sooner. What you talk about Willie?
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Pack93z
13 years ago

What's this players want to be free sooner bit about? I never said otherwise, damn ... it! I said I thought roster bonuses were earned by being on the 53 man roster. I never said anything about being free sooner. What you talk about Willie?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 





All it was is a reasoning of why I thought the Bonus timeline would be accelerated a bit.. nothing more.  Most roster bonus's that I know of are setup close to the beginning of the league year.. so that veteran players that are going to be cut have a better change of landing in the market.. sort of a tool to prompt clubs to make decisions earlier in the offseason. Otherwise.. you get these late cuts and players settling for near the league min.



Didn't know Justin Nickname was willie. 😉
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