Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Maybe some of us tax paying Americans recognize that we are in no way on an even playing field with these athletes. It's not an apples to apples comparison. It's more like apples to dogshit.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Bullshit, I can kick 30 yard field goals with more consistency than Mason Crosby.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Bullshit, I can kick 30 yard field goals with more consistency than Mason Crosby.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



OK Charlie Brown.
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Pack93z
13 years ago

Maybe some of us tax paying Americans recognize that we are in no way on an even playing field with these athletes. It's not an apples to apples comparison. It's more like apples to dogshit.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 





Honestly.. I don't think we are to be compared in terms of income nor the taxes they pay upon that.. I agree most of us are in a different universe in terms of income vs tax ratio. And personally I hold no contempt in them getting "paid".



Where I take exception is in the fact that the entire sports industry is afforded overall tax and legal exceptions that most of America isn't afforded.



And these breaks do cost us, the Tax paying Americans, in our wallets on top of our money that we spend on their product. Without these exceptions, both tax and legally, these leagues would not be able to rake in the profits that they do. Thus these owners and athletes would have less to divvy between them overall.



As a society, most can agree that we have too much government overall, we have waste and pork in every dollar this government spends.



And here we have leagues that are being given "extra", yet both sides will boldly state that they aren't being treated fairly or that they don't have enough of the pie.



Well damn it.. a chunk of that pie is a benefit afforded you via special treatment from the government in addition to tax burdens being put into place to fund your arenas and stadiums that don't come out of your annual profits.



So for them to cost other citizens even a red cent over there greed.. well I will hold a bit of contempt towards them.



I respect your stance in that it matters little to you.. more or less I am explaining my view point.



It is not that they have "more".. it is simply how they handle themselves with "more "and in the manner that that "more" came. The sports leagues in this country drive a ton of business, no doubt, and they provide hundreds of thousands of jobs. But along with that they are most definitely given exceptions that allow them to garner "more" internally, exceptions that most of this country are not afforded. Sure corporate America is afford more than your average citizen as well.. but they are wise enough not to flaunt nor play the public as openly as these sports leagues have and will continue to do so.



Is it outside of the norm that I see in this country overall? Everything is driven on greed and failing to see and respect what we have in place of what we want. But just because it is part of the norm, doesn't make it right.. so view me as overly righteous upon this issue. That is fine.. it just doesn't change my opinion upon the topic.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
We're not a greedy country, c'mon!

It's not like we have a mobile device maker suing every competitor they can imagine,
or people trying to sue someone who was acquitted of murder because they aren't happy with the verdict,
or people cutting someone off and slamming on their brakes to get a beefy insurance check claiming they were re-ended,
or millionaires arguing with billionaires how to slice up 9 billion dollars,
or people creating an application that says your computer is infected with a virus (that they just installed) and to buy XX product to remove it,
or paying nearly $4 for a gallon of GAS.

We live in America, where that stuff simply does not happen because we're not greedy.
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Pack93z
13 years ago
Just another example.. now we have individual players that want "more" than brethren. Here I thought they were one for all and all for one in equality.





Peyton Manning and Drew Brees request settlement terms



Drew Brees AP

Logan Mankins and Vincent Jackson aren’t the only Brady antitrust plaintiffs that will want a little sweetening of the pie.


Drew Brees and Peyton Manning both are requesting to be exempt from the franchise tag for the rest of their careers, according to Greg A. Bedard of the Boston Globe.


Bedard’s source says that would be effective immediately, which would conceivably make Manning an unrestricted free agent next week.  (Now that would fun.)   Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com confirmed Bedard’s report. This could slow the process down a bit, but we find it hard to believe the plaintiffs couldn’t be settled quickly, one way or another.


The NFLPA* appears sensitive to the P.R. of players looking like bad guys in the process.


Rely on the process and rely on your player leadership to get you the right information. Don’t let ‘anonymous sources’ influence you,” NFLPA* spokesman George Atallah wrote on Twitter.


We think there is room for all of the above to be completely accurate.  It is not a surprise Brees, Manning, Mankins, and Jackson are trying to get what they can.


That doesn’t mean the players will get what they want, but it’s part of the “process” that Atallah describes.




"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
DakotaT
13 years ago

We're not a greedy country, c'mon!

It's not like we have a mobile device maker suing every competitor they can imagine,
or people trying to sue someone who was acquitted of murder because they aren't happy with the verdict,
or people cutting someone off and slamming on their brakes to get a beefy insurance check claiming they were re-ended,
or millionaires arguing with billionaires how to slice up 9 billion dollars,
or people creating an application that says your computer is infected with a virus (that they just installed) and to buy XX product to remove it,
or paying nearly $4 for a gallon of GAS.

We live in America, where that stuff simply does not happen because we're not greedy.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Or getting all the snatch you can handle when you are single only to sign yourself up for marriage, wait, what are we talking about again?
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The_Claymaker
13 years ago
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
WTF? I didn't say all that shit! Quite putting words in my mouth! Fix your post!!!!!!
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Smiley gone nuts!
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The_Claymaker
13 years ago
I'm assuming you're joking and just realized the italics are my responses, but I don't really need to argue about this anymore anyway.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I'm assuming you're joking and just realized the italics are my responses, but I don't really need to argue about this anymore anyway.

Originally Posted by: The_Claymaker 



Putting YOUR words under MY name is not cool and its offensive. I'm disgusted with your lack of integrity.

You're not a ventriloquist in real life, don't try being one on a interweb forum.

Please fix your post, don't be a turd.
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