The_Claymaker
14 years ago

Good one.

So what's the criteria? Career whining or whines per season?

If it's career whines, Peyton Manning wins.

If it's whines per season, Cutler wins.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



True Peyton has been around longer. Personally I've never thought of Peyton as a big whiner, but at some point Peyton became my second favorite QB behind Brett/Aaron, so maybe I showed bias toward him. I do feel he is a bit overrated at this point, and have finally jumped to the Brady side of the Manning vs. Brady debate (though now Aaron, Brees could be involved).
The_Claymaker
14 years ago

NFL Network is going to be discussing whether or not Aaron Rodgers was ranked too low at #11 in a few minutes.


Edit, what they said...

They say many people are screaming foul that he should be at least top 5.

One guy (Jamie Dukes?) on the show says he wouldn't put him higher than Brees, Manning or Brady, but should have been between 5-10.

Another guy (Mike Lombardi?) says Rodgers was too low.

Another guy (Francis aka Kermit) says the criteria just wasn't defined well. (oddly enough, didn't NFL Network administer the 'survey'?)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Jamie Dukes is a Packers/Aaron hater, Mike Lombardi is normally high on Packers players. The criteria was suppose to be best players of 2011, but even though NFL Network did administer the survey, I believe the criteria might have been a bit vague and players voted more on past success/reputation than 2011's best.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Jamie Dukes is a Packers/Aaron hater, Mike Lombardi is normally high on Packers players. The criteria was suppose to be best players of 2011, but even though NFL Network did administer the survey, I believe the criteria might have been a bit vague and players voted more on past success/reputation than 2011's best.

Originally Posted by: The_Claymaker 



Color me baffled because to my understanding 2011 hasn't even happened yet.
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The_Claymaker
14 years ago

Color me baffled because to my understanding 2011 hasn't even happened yet.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



By 2011's best, I (and I believe the show) mean the best players heading into 2011, or the players projected to do the best in 2011. As opposed to saying the best 100 players of 2010, I believe the list is suppose to be forward looking, so the players with the best 2010 seasons don't necessarily get rated the highest.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Which frankly seems like a dumb idea to me. Why would you rank players for a season that hasn't happened yet? It makes so much more sense to rank the players from the previous season, since you actually have data for that season. Anything could happen going into this season: history shows that a certain number of players on that Top 100 list won't be on the field opening weekend.
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Yerko
14 years ago
I was excited for this entire list...until they presented it. I thought it was a terrible list overall and the criteria for placing players was all over the place.

Marshall Faulk said it the best when he was debating the placement of players with last years stats. I think that is the most logical thing to do if you are ranking players for the following season, no?

With going off Faulk's idea of placement I would easily say that Aaron Rodgers deserved to be higher on the list.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
Ray Lewis is... was a great player, but him in the top 5.. makes the list simply a joke. That and Peppers included in the top 10.. a guy that can disappear for long stretches of time.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Ray Lewis is... was a great player, but him in the top 5.. makes the list simply a joke. That and Peppers included in the top 10.. a guy that can disappear for long stretches of time.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


I thought the same about Peppers, but wasn't sure. I just don't see him being really top 25 in the league. He's good, but I'd rather have DeMarcus Ware (different schemes, but still).
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DakotaT
14 years ago

Jamie Dukes is a Packers/Aaron hater,

Originally Posted by: The_Claymaker 




Yeah he played most of his career with the Falcons, one with us, and one with the Cardinals. Maybe he was unceremoniously dismissed in GB. I really don't remember him as a Packer. The guy made the statement that T-jack was going to be a better player than Rodgers in Aaron's first year. Maybe he does hate the Packers, or maybe he's just a moron; but then again - a lot of the experts wouldn't be able to cut it on our forum.
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nerdmann
14 years ago

Yeah he played most of his career with the Falcons, one with us, and one with the Cardinals. Maybe he was unceremoniously dismissed in GB. I really don't remember him as a Packer. The guy made the statement that T-jack was going to be a better player than Rodgers in Aaron's first year. Maybe he does hate the Packers, or maybe he's just a moron; but then again - a lot of the experts wouldn't be able to cut it on our forum.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 





Jamie Dukes is an offensive version of Warren Sapp. Overrated, but likes to run his mouth.
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