beast
14 years ago

I much rather have the Packers take the ball with two minutes left knowing they need to make it a 40 yard FG attempt. I want efficiency and clutch more than I want a big leg.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Last year Longwell missed one from inside of 40, Crosby missed two... not a big difference inside of 40 when you count in Crosby had over twice as many of his kicks outdoors than Longwell did. So ether way they should know they have to make it a 40 yard FG attempt.

The difference is MM willing to take bigger risk on longer shots.


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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

I don't want to get off topic, but I watched the game again recently and thought the offensive line did a decent job against the best defense in the league.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 


In comparison to what? The Steelers started a rookie center (I think it was) in his first-ever game, and they also had to make at least one other in-game substitution, and Roethlisberger was still only hit 8 times. By contrast, the Packers had good continuity in their line for most of the season and still couldn't protect Rodgers in the biggest game of all. People haven't given this team nearly the criticism it deserved simply because they won the Super Bowl. The more I watch that game, the more amazed I am that they won at all. If it weren't for some amazing plays on defense (or was it Roethlisberger's determined efforts to give the game away?) and the stellar play of Aaron Rodgers, they could have been blown out. I found myself admiring Rodgers for the way he patiently kept going back to his receivers, even though they kept letting him down.

But you are right. This is off topic, so I will shut up.
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porky88
14 years ago

Last year Longwell missed one from inside of 40, Crosby missed two... not a big difference inside of 40 when you count in Crosby had over twice as many of his kicks outdoors than Longwell did. So ether way they should know they have to make it a 40 yard FG attempt.

The difference is MM willing to take bigger risk on longer shots.

Originally Posted by: beast 


I think if you read all my posts, my intent is to state that my problems with Crosby start and end with his ability to make game-winning kicks. At least that is what I am trying to get across. I am not talking about Crosby in general. I am talking about Crosby at the finish. In my view, that is the No. 1 criteria while evaluating kickers.
azrunning
14 years ago
If you have a 2 minute drive to win the game there are a few different options. Offense scores a touchdown or the drive stalls. If the drive stalls with a 50+ field goal Crosby could win it, might not. longwell could not win it. If the drive stalls with a 40 yard field goal, both are pretty good with longwell's numbers being slightly better but largely (not totally) because his kicks have come in a better setting. I still think Crosby.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

If you have a 2 minute drive to win the game there are a few different options. Offense scores a touchdown or the drive stalls. If the drive stalls with a 50+ field goal Crosby could win it, might not. longwell could not win it. If the drive stalls with a 40 yard field goal, both are pretty good with longwell's numbers being slightly better but largely (not totally) because his kicks have come in a better setting. I still think Crosby.

Originally Posted by: azrunning 



Ryan Longwell is 8 for 8 in his last 8 attempts at 50+.
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earthquake
14 years ago

Ryan Longwell is 8 for 8 in his last 8 attempts at 50+.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, but he kicked zero last year, and only two the year before. Its true he had a great year in 2008 going 6 for 6, but he was 1 for 4 the year before, and 0 for two in 2006. He's 9-14 as a viking, which is certainly respectable, and actually a good deal better than Crosby at 10/21 in his career. However, I've gotta image he's only tried two in the last two years for a reason.

Crosby also makes more 55-60 yard attempts than most other kickers in the league, which I have to imagine skews his stats a bit. Does anyone know where to check the distance of each kick a kicker has made?
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