porky didn't say a kicker never EVER sticks with one team for 20 years. He asked how many, implying that it's not too often, in which he's correct.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Seriously, how many kickers actually play 20 years for one team? None in the modern era...

porky88 wrote:

wat?

Next to that, it's not as much about going to keep him for 15 years, as it is having the option to keep him for another 15. With Longwell, you're going to have to pick up a kicker soon. Viking fans don't call him "Shortwell" for nothing. He's a great kicker, but his leg strength isn't amazing and has been dropping for a while, now. Crosby isn't a great kicker by any means, but at least you can attempt those 55 yarders in the freezing cold at Lambeau and actually have a shot at making them.

And keep having that possibility for the next 15 years.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 

Jason Handson would like a word with you. Phil Dawson isn't going to make the 20 years, but he's been kicking for the Browns since '99. Janikowski has been the Raiders kicker for 10 years... Although they might be somewhat stuck to him, picking him in the 1st round and all.

The grass is always greener in the NFL, it seems. The biggest reason that kickers get cut appears to be when missing an important fiel goal, regardless of how they've been doing. Best example might be Shayne Graham. Amazing kicker for the Bengals, misses two "clutch" field goals, gets replaced by Mike Nugent. A good kicker in his own right, but not exactly an upgrade or anything.

I think our staff is one of the more sensible ones. If they like Crosby, they'll keep him around. I don't know if they'll just scapegoat him like a lot of teams do to their kickers and kick him to the curb.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 

In the end, I rather take my chances that the Packer offense can get into range for Longwell than have Crosby kick a 50-plus yard field goal. Yeah, he'll attempt it, but a miss is a miss.

Originally Posted by: porky88 

I think a miss at 50yds is worse than 40yds because of the field position you relinquish to the ENEMY!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I'm talking about when the clock expires.

Originally Posted by: porky88 

Originally Posted by: porky88 

If our receivers would stop dropping so many passes, or our offensive line would learn to block worth a damn so that we didn't stall so often on third down (yes, I just got done watching the Super Bowl again, and our offensive line was TERRIBLE in that game), maybe Crosby wouldn't have to attempt so many long kicks.

I take that back. Our offensive line was beyond terrible. The were horrendous. Rodgers was hit 16 times in his first 34 dropbacks. That is pathetic. Amazingly, Crosby only attempted on field goal that entire game.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 

Huh? ... so you're talking about when the clock expires run more offensive plays to get Longwell in range? If their isn't time on the clock then you ether have to kick it or got for hail mary touchdown...

Also if you can run more offensive plays to closer for Longwell why don't you also have that as an option with Crosby? Inside 40 yard distances both kickers are pretty good...

Originally Posted by: beast