Pack93z
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13 years ago
Well I would hate to have to explain that gaff to the people.. then trying to round up and re-lock up those set free.. would be interesting litigation.

All I got to say.. is D'Oh!


Prison computer error lets 450 violent felons walk free 

According to California prison inspectors, an ill-equipped computer system has allowed the release of 450 inmates who are considered to have a "high risk of violence." The mistake originated in a computer program designed to organize the release of low-risk prisoners parole-free, and keep the facilities from wasting time and taxpayer dollars on those who pose no threat to society.

Unfortunately the criteria the system was using when it determined the release dates for 10,134 inmates last year failed to take into account convictions and disciplinary actions for over half of the state's entire prison population. Using only arrest information, which on paper can make even the most violent criminal appear to be a minimal threat to society, the system ordered the parole-free release of violent felons, gang members, and rapists.

Prisons in the state are dangerously overcrowded, and a federal mandate has given officials 2 years to cut the inmate population by 33,000 individuals. The computer program at fault was meant to help with this process, but without accurate records, it won't do much good. Law enforcement has made no attempt to track down the erroneously freed felons at this time, and officials say that they can only be returned if they are caught committing a crime.


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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Yeah, well, if 55% of this nation's prisoners weren't non-violent drug offenders, maybe the prisons wouldn't be overcrowded.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Yeah, well, if 55% of this nation's prisoners weren't non-violent drug offenders, maybe the prisons wouldn't be overcrowded.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



And maybe if prisons actually tried reforming inmates, rather than contain them there would be less inmates returning to prisons after they were released.
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Pack93z
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13 years ago
So the answer is not to incarcerate people of lesser crime? And the deterrent is?

Lets use DUI multiple time offenders.. apparently the system for the 1st and 2nd offense didn't deter them from committing the same offense a third, fourth or etc time.. So if not to lock them up .. what would be the method for trying to alter the behavior?
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
In some jurisdictions, driving too fast can be charged as assault with a deadly weapon, so I would say that driving while intoxicated can be viewed in a similar light. There is a huge difference, however, between driving while intoxicated, thereby posing a material risk not only to oneself, but to everyone in the path of the vehicle, and smoking (or even selling) a little reefer.

What I am puzzled by is the fact this list wasn't scrubbed. You would think there would be some sort of bureaucratic mechanism in place to verify every name before the release was completed. It's not like releases are simple procedures; they are pretty drawn-out affairs, from what I understand. The potential liability inherent in making an error of this magnitude is gigantic.
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4PackGirl
13 years ago

So the answer is not to incarcerate people of lesser crime? And the deterrent is?

Lets use DUI multiple time offenders.. apparently the system for the 1st and 2nd offense didn't deter them from committing the same offense a third, fourth or etc time.. So if not to lock them up .. what would be the method for trying to alter the behavior?

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



the ex has 4 DUI's now - 2 of which were many years ago & 2 were 3 years ago. he got 10 days in jail but only served 2. and it was in the local pokey so no big deal. i honestly don't think anything would deter him from drinking & driving. he does have a breathalyzer on his vehicle now so i guess that might help a little BUT any sober person could blow into it so i'm not sure how much that really helps.

to be honest, the idea of the father of my kids going to prison for DUI's seems awful but so does the idea of him killing someone while driving drunk.

i guess there's no easy answer. the laws are there but the prosecutors are often 'good buddies' with the defense attorneys so pleaing things down has become far too easy.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

So the answer is not to incarcerate people of lesser crime? And the deterrent is?

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



If this is directed at me, where the hell did you get that I said to eliminate incarceration from? I said "reforming inmates", which clearly implied they are still incarcerated.

What I'm saying is, instead of simply stripping ones freedom away and let them conjure other criminal plots with fellow criminals... instead of that ... reform them, make valiant attempts at teaching them right from wrong, try to enforce self discipline that there parents failed to do. That's what I'm talking about.

Simply losing your freedom seems to have lost it's value in this country and that's a whole 'nother topic in its own! lol

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13 years ago

If this is directed at me, where the hell did you get that I said to eliminate incarceration from?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Nope this post from NSD

Yeah, well, if 55% of this nation's prisoners weren't non-violent drug offenders, maybe the prisons wouldn't be overcrowded.



In a quick nutshell.. simply pointing at the 55% isn't prudent to this problem or the overcrowding issue as well.
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13 years ago



i guess there's no easy answer. the laws are there but the prosecutors are often 'good buddies' with the defense attorneys so pleaing things down has become far too easy.

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 



Agreed.. there is no easy answer that that issue... DUI. For some there is no stopping them unless they are controlled in some manner.. such as being detained.

But there are a plethora of other issues in which one may be jailed but would fall outside the non violent offenders.. but the answer shouldn't be not to incarcerate them. IMO. Otherwise what are the alternate deterrent.. a fine? Community service?

Or should we incorporate capital punishment for the violent offenders to eliminate the issue of overcrowding?


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Or we could follow the example of Portugal, which decriminalized all drugs in 2007 and went from having the highest rate of recreational drug abuse in Europe to the lowest.

As economists have pointed out, prohibition is a state-sponsored subsidy of dealers. In that sense, it is not only counterproductive, it could be considered immoral.

But that is obviously another topic.
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