DakotaT
  • DakotaT
  • Select Member Topic Starter
16 years ago
I didn't get to see the game, but I heard it on the radio. Hawk's name was called quite a bit. Did Hawk play well, and does he have a future there?
UserPostedImage
Pack93z
16 years ago
Well considering that we didn't play a ton of base defense, we played with 5 dbs for the most part.. I think the jury is still out on whether he will be able to handle the heavy traffic when a team forces us to drop into a ton of base with Hawk really and truly playing the middle.

But he was playing more aggressive again yesterday.. more like the Hawk of the first week or two of the season.. he had a bit of attitude about him yesterday.

That was the most interesting part about it for me.. without Barnett on the field he seems more vocal and played a little more intense.. I wonder if it is just him stepping up with Barnett out of there, if is was the added responsibility of donning the headset and making the calls, or if it is something deeper than that...

He and Chillar were on the field for the most part.. they both played very well.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
gbpfan
16 years ago
It was a good test for him,which I think he did good at.Don't know if Saints have another r.b with Bush out they like to pass more and think the d-line will be all over them,our o-line should have another good run game pack is back :icon_smile:
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
I'm not sure I'm sold on Hawk at MLB. I did think he looked more 'fit' for the position than he does on the outside. Maybe it's the number, but his roaming around reminded me of Singletary a lil bit. He had those wings open a little bit jus waiting to grapple someone an rip them to the turf.


If he succeeds and outperforms even what Barnett did, it'd be interesting to see if Barnett could improve our WLB position in a similar fashion. I think Barnett played Safety in college so he should be able to cover fairly well.
UserPostedImage
yooperfan
16 years ago
I was out at deer camp (didn't get the monster buck) so I didn't see the game but it's good to hear that Hawk did well.
I haven't been real happy with his lackluster play up to now.
Hopefully he can build on this game!
porky88
16 years ago
It's not that Hawk was great, it's that Barnett wasn't very good this season. With Hawk, you had a linebacker who didn't over pursue and held his own. You had a backer that actually wrapped up instead of going for the big hit. Barnett would over pursue and go for the big hit instead of wrapping up. He was playing way to aggressive for whatever reason.

Hawk was vice versa.
obi1
16 years ago

I'm not sure I'm sold on Hawk at MLB. I did think he looked more 'fit' for the position than he does on the outside. Maybe it's the number, but his roaming around reminded me of Singletary a lil bit. He had those wings open a little bit jus waiting to grapple someone an rip them to the turf.


If he succeeds and outperforms even what Barnett did, it'd be interesting to see if Barnett could improve our WLB position in a similar fashion. I think Barnett played Safety in college so he should be able to cover fairly well.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Zero,

You gotta admit though that Packers did NOT miss a step with Hawk in the middle. Barnett may be the MLB as listed on the Packers brochures but Hawk may be just as good.

At least I thought he held his own. May be it was the scheme that he played in but, I thought he played well for most part.
blank
Bigbyfan
16 years ago

I'm not sure I'm sold on Hawk at MLB. I did think he looked more 'fit' for the position than he does on the outside. Maybe it's the number, but his roaming around reminded me of Singletary a lil bit. He had those wings open a little bit jus waiting to grapple someone an rip them to the turf.


If he succeeds and outperforms even what Barnett did, it'd be interesting to see if Barnett could improve our WLB position in a similar fashion. I think Barnett played Safety in college so he should be able to cover fairly well.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I wouldn't mind having AJ Hawk play like Singletary.... but that may just be me šŸ™‚
blank
DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Barnett's body is more apt for weak side isn't it?
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

It's not that Hawk was great, it's that Barnett wasn't very good this season. With Hawk, you had a linebacker who didn't over pursue and held his own. You had a backer that actually wrapped up instead of going for the big hit. Barnett would over pursue and go for the big hit instead of wrapping up. He was playing way to aggressive for whatever reason.

Hawk was vice versa.

"porky88" wrote:



I have to disagree a little with you porky, I think in Barnett's earlier years he did over pursue, but this year he wasn't aggressive.

Instead of running into the hole to meet the RB like he did so much of last year, this year Barnett waited for the RB to get in the hole and come to him.

I think the lack of aggressiveness vividly stood out in the Atlanta game, where a RB (Turner, I think) had Barnett solo on the outside, and Turner was shaking and trying to get Barnett to bite. Barnett just stood there, stayed back and waited for Turner to pick the direction and start running towards him.

On NFL Replay they showed last year's match-up against the Chargers in week 3. LT had Barnett in a similar position (outside, solo) and was trying to do what Turner did, shaking to try and get Barnett to bite. As LT started to shake, Barnett just flat out attacked him, and got LT for a minimal gain.

Perhaps it's as simple as Barnett thinking he was backed up on the LT play, and not on the Turner play, which led to the hesitation. But that's sort of the difference between this year and last year, Barnett seemed to lack the aggressive instinct of going after the player, instead chosing to meet him as he came out of the gap.

Hawk was, even in the Nickle LB package, far more aggressive in attacking the line of scrimmage. He over pursued at times too (Z captured one such moment in his highlight video), but it was nice to see that aggressiveness again.

Although I have to say that IMO the past couple of weeks Barnett was returning to that aggressive style of the previous year.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (9m) : Panthers at Green Bay in week 9, Nov 2nd
    buckeyepackfan (27m) : Week 1
    buckeyepackfan (27m) : Packers Host Detroit Week 1! ML finally gets a week home opener.
    beast (15h) : I was kind of hoping Douglas might come back to the Pack
    beast (15h) : My question is how much do we trust Jenkins? In bad weather, he seemed to struggle a bit with ball control snapping, though he started at OG
    beast (15h) : Well Jenkins probably knows he's not getting that 2026 salary number without a new contact... so just trying to get the new contact early
    Zero2Cool (20h) : CB Rasul Douglas is visiting the #Seahawks today, per source.
    dfosterf (23h) : He's a switch and baiter. Its the same as a bait and switcher except he agreed to the switch first lol
    dfosterf (23h) : 6.8 mil raise next year. Those are existing contract numbers
    dfosterf (23h) : 12.8 plus 4.8 pro rata signing bonus is 17.6 mil. Top center in the league at 18
    Zero2Cool (23h) : Elgton Jenkins wants to rework contract ahead of position change to center
    Zero2Cool (13-May) : šŸˆMonday, Nov. 10: Eagles at Packers
    buckeyepackfan (12-May) : Packers @ Bears week 16(Saturday Game)
    Zero2Cool (12-May) : Clifford hasn't been the same since losing 8
    dfosterf (12-May) : Sean Clifford would probably disagree
    dfosterf (12-May) : Canuck Cannon. Got a very good feeling about this
    Zero2Cool (12-May) : Tom Pelissero also reports what bboy stated
    bboystyle (12-May) : The Green Bay Packers on Monday signed Taylor Elgersma, the Canadian-born quarterback who tried out at the team’s rookie camp last weekend
    beast (12-May) : There were reports four days ago that the Packers were signing QB Taylor Elgersma, but no official action since
    Zero2Cool (12-May) : And for Ian Rapoport to announce Saints send 1st and 2nd rounder to Packers for Malik Willis.
    dfosterf (12-May) : *Elgersma*
    dfosterf (12-May) : Today would be a good day to discover the Pack signed Taylor Engersma, the Canadian QB
    Zero2Cool (11-May) : It wasn't. He simply wanted his money back. They refused. Cops came. They gave him his money in end.
    dfosterf (11-May) : Fortunately it doesn't sound like a big deal
    Zero2Cool (10-May) : Elgton Jenkins Involved In Strip Club Dispute ... Cops Called To Mitigate
    Zero2Cool (10-May) : Derek Carr retires. Shoulder must be bad.
    Zero2Cool (10-May) : Packers Pro Shop is not currently printing Golden #22 jerseys ā€œuntil his number is confirmed after Training Camp.ā€
    greengold (9-May) : My impression is he's a Peruvian soccer fan not a bares fan.
    Martha Careful (9-May) : Favored Illinois Bishop?
    beast (9-May) : Technically, the I in FIB stands for Italian now, Si?
    dfosterf (8-May) : I never thought I'd live long enough to call a pope a FIB, but here we are
    Martha Careful (8-May) : Chicago produces a pope before it produces a 4000 yard passing quarterback
    wpr (8-May) : HAHAHA Mucky Comment of the day.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : According to reports, Mel Kiper is furious that Sanders wasn't selected as the new Pope
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Time taken to get picked:
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : New Pope: 2 days | Shedeur Sanders: 3 days
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Collin Whitchurch @cowhitchurch Ā· 1h Chicago got a pope before it got a QB to throw for 4,000 yards in a season.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : New Pope from Chicago; in other words, the city produced a Pope before a 4000 yard passer
    beast (7-May) : My first name starts with R and my beer belly is quite voluptuous! Thank you for noticing šŸ˜
    Zero2Cool (7-May) : beast, you're just one R from being voluptuous.
    Zero2Cool (7-May) : And now some Packers blogger is like Doubs to Steelers makes sense!!!!
    Zero2Cool (7-May) : You saw me Tweet???
    beast (7-May) : Supposedly Steelers will be trading WR George Pickens to the Cowboys for a 3rd and late round pick swap
    Zero2Cool (5-May) : Ravens release Justin Tucker, err D. Watson Jr?
    Zero2Cool (5-May) : Cardinals have signed TE Josiah Deguara.
    Zero2Cool (5-May) : If I were to "Google" it, then I wouldn't read it in your words.
    Martha Careful (5-May) : Yes, in the military S2’s work on IPB, PERCEC, PHYSEC and IO
    dfosterf (4-May) : FYI civilian companies swipe the S2 designation from the military. S2 is the intelligence branch up to brigade level. G2 is division level.
    dfosterf (4-May) : Google it. Make sure to tack NFL on it or you will get the military meaning
    Zero2Cool (4-May) : S2?
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
    Vikings
    Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    21m / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    59m / Random Babble / wpr

    21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nyrpack

    13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    12-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    12-May / Around The NFL / beast

    12-May / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

    9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    8-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    6-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    Headlines
    Copyright Ā© 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.comā„¢. All Rights Reserved.