RedSoxExcel
14 years ago
Few points, isn't this Mike Freeman guy the one who lied on a resume or something about where he got his degree and then got fired from a newspaper?

Also, I wonder who this anonymous source is and I didn't even realize that Montana and Young didn't shake hands before or after the KC/49ers game. REALLY?!

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14688108/packers-fans-will-forgive-favre-but-when-will-rodgers 

The speaker is a member of the Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers. He wanted to do something few in Green Bay would ever attempt in the post-title glow: He wanted to defend Brett Favre. Slightly.

The fact the player wants to remain anonymous says almost as much as the quotations themselves. Favre remains, partly, a radioactive isotope being ripped as petty for still not yet contacting (as far as we know) quarterback Aaron Rodgers to congratulate him for his Super Bowl victory.

Aaron Rodgers hasn't forgotten how Brett Favre treated him in Green Bay.
"This is one of those situations where Brett can't win," the player said. "If he calls Aaron it looks like he's grandstanding. If he doesn't, he seems like he's selfish and inconsiderate.

"I can tell you Brett wants to speak to Aaron. He really does and it's sincere. I don't know if they've spoken yet. I just know Brett wants to bury the hatchet."

Really?

"No question. The big issue is will Aaron want to take the call. That I don't know. The bitterness remains deep."

Is it possible such a phone call between the two men has taken place and no knows about it?

"Possible," he said, "but unlikely."

Hence, this is the final question from a grand moment in NFL history, the Packers winning another Super Bowl title: Will Green Bay's past quarterback hero in Favre, and its current and future one in Rodgers, ever be able to make amends?

At some point their paths will have to intersect, right? Can you have two Green Bay legends hating one another?

In the coming months and years the Packers organization will forgive Favre's arrogance and text obsessions and welcome him back to the Packers fold. Green Bay fans will do the same. So that leaves Favre and Rodgers.

If Rodgers does what many of us have been predicting for years, and that is lead the next generation of great throwers, then his path and Favre's could cross often.

That is the message friends of both Rodgers and Favre have been sending both men for months, and even since the Super Bowl. But the bitterness remains strong, as does the suspicion.

Rodgers, again, has a right to be angry with Favre. Rodgers discussed why in an interview one year ago when he said he phoned Favre to reach out to him and Favre never called back. That is true jerkiness right there.

I'm told that when the subject of ending his cold war with Rodgers is raised with Favre, Favre eventually asks, "What does Aaron think?" And I'm told that when Rodgers is asked about reconciling with Favre, Rodgers eventually asks, "What does Brett think?" And so it goes.

No one wants to make the first move and as far as I can tell no one has. (Though shouldn't that be Favre?)

The impasse remains this simple little conundrum. Favre is concerned any attempt by him to reach out to Rodgers will be seen as manipulative, and Rodgers still hurts from the way Favre treated him when the two played together.

So the Packers are stuck. You have a storied franchise with two storied players who can't stand one another.

It's not necessary or required they settle any differences, but wouldn't it be nice?

This relationship isn't as strained as the worst relationship two star quarterbacks ever had in Joe Montana and Steve Young. Montana was highly critical of Young, publicly portraying Young as someone trying to steal his job. When Montana went to Kansas City and played his old team with Young at the helm the two men refused to shake hands before the game (and after).

They've since become acquaintances, though not friends. That may be the best the Packers will get with Favre and Rodgers.

One day Favre will be inducted into the Hall of Fame, but before that the Packers will retire his number. Just a matter of time. That relationship between the team and fans will be healed.

Will Favre and Rodgers one day reach a peace accord assuming they already secretly haven't?

That's the big question.


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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
This is the kind of article that irritates the piss out of me. I just tinkled.


I've said a few times that I firmly believe that Brett and Aaron communicate often, but mutually agreed to keep it private because of the immense questioning that would ensue. I stand by that because of the comments Brett has has as well as Aaron. Brett also had Aaron at his house for dinner after the NFC Championship game against the Giants just a month or so prior to his retiring.

Aaron has said he contacted Brett (wasn't specific if it was a call or text) and that AT THAT TIME, he had not heard back.



Perhaps this is the naive nature of me coming through, But I don't think either one has a right to be upset at the other.

Skim through this, it's Brett's retirement speech. The speech that was about HIM retiring and he took time, several times to mention Aaron Rodgers. Read the comments Brett says about Aaron during HIS final day, his retirement as (eventually) a Packer.
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Brett-Favre-Retirement-Press-Conference-Transcript---March-6/9e8481c7-5aa4-11df-a3b6-528cc843f916 
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14 years ago
I could see DD being the mediator if one is needed. But if they have not contacted each other, why do they have to? Does Brett have to call everyone who was on the team when he was? No.
If they are not speaking or texting or anything in 5 years then we can make an issue out of it. Or not. This is one of those, "who cares. It is not any of our business anyway." stories.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago
Can't we all just get along?
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
The anonymous source sounds like a player bitter that he won't be brought back next year.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

The anonymous source sounds like a player bitter that he won't be brought back next year.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I was thinking Atari Bigby immediately.
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14 years ago
What a dumb article. You know what I think? WHO CARES. The time is now, and right now we're goddamn champions. That's what I think.

(also, why would Bigby be in contact with #4? I was thinking DD since I can't think of anybody else close to the guy)

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I agree that Donald Driver is the most logical candidate, but what motivation does he have for instigation right now?
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4PackGirl
14 years ago
the only explanation is...he made up the entire story.
but that couldn't happen, right?
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

What a dumb article. You know what I think? WHO CARES. The time is now, and right now we're goddamn champions. That's what I think.

(also, why would Bigby be in contact with #4? I was thinking Donald Driver since I can't think of anybody else close to the guy)

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



I do believe there are no laws that state an offensive player can not communicate with a defensive player, especially one that was on PUP for a month an half after being pissed off he didn't get a long term deal. I could be mistaken, as I am often.

If I think illogically, I'd say it was Donald Driver, but I just don't see there being a rift as this anonymous player states. Donald is fairly close to Brett and Aaron ... he'd know if the two were speaking or not.

Aaron Rodgers has never once shown (that I've seen) any bitterness or anything of that nature publicly. I'll also throw it out there that the two after a game whisper sweet nothings into one anther's ear. Yeah, lots of bitterness there. They don't HAVE to do that. Adding to that, when asked about the dialog between the two, they both say it's private.

Hell, I suppose it good be
"Hey Brett great pick six to Dez, I toasted your ass, ha"
"Yeah Aaron, you got lucky son, you wont achieve half of what I did".


I'd bet this article was based on a fabricated perception of either a current or previous Packers player/coach.
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