Pack93z
14 years ago

Aaron.. let it slide off your back..

http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.com/blogs/gpg/insider/2011/01/18/rodgers-criticized-for-not-signing-autograph/ 

Patrick: Is the video representative of what actually happened in that situation?

Rodgers: Well Jan is a great fan and we have an incredible fan base that travels well and Id like to thank all the fans that showed up in Atlanta. But we had a ton of fans at the airport Ive met Jan on previous occasions, Ive signed for her. At this point, you know, as the video shows, on this trip you know I didnt see her. I didnt sign for her and this kind of has turned into something I didnt really expect. But I think the people of Green Bay they know how I feel about them and how much I appreciate their support and like I said, this turned into something I didnt really expect.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

"Pack93z" wrote:



Yeah, what a asshole QB to respond to a question and so poorly.

And if he side stepped the question, then you got something else to gripe about.

QB > *

Admit it!!!



My comment was simply.. Aaron don't let it bother you.. let it slide off your back.. in others words you did nothing wrong and shouldn't be picked on like this.

So who's bias is at work? 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
lmao, figures after 3 good comments, the one with a shameless plug goes through.
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dfosterf
14 years ago
PFT Florio 

An apology to Aaron Rodgers, Packers fans, and Jan Cavanaugh
Posted by Mike Florio on January 18, 2011, 8:48 PM EST
Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers appeared today on The Dan Patrick Show. During the interview, Rodgers addressed the video that appeared over the weekend on WBAY-TV in Green Bay, with Rodgers walking past Packers fan and cancer survivor Jan Cavanaugh as she sought an autograph.

Ive met Jan on previous occasions, Rodgers said. As the video shows, I didnt see her. I didnt sign for her. It turned into something I didnt really expect.

The images from the now-yanked story shows a terminal at Austin Straubel Airport containing a group of Packers fans, seeing the Packers off to Atlanta on Friday of last week. In the video, Cavanaugh explains that she has a pink hat that she hopes Rodgers will sign it. And the very next image shows Rodgers strolling by with buds in his ears and the force field demeanor that we often see from celebrities who are being pursued by paparazzi.

When I saw the video for the first time, I cringed. Many of you did the same. But then I did what we bloggers (or whatever we are) all too often do I fired off a rebuke of Rodgers without considering anything else about the other things he has done, both publicly and privately, over the years.

Gregg Doyel of CBS has provided an excellent look at Rodgers good deeds, including his work for Midwest Athletes Against Childhood Cancer. You should read Greggs article. Its an eye opener. And I commend Rodgers for his efforts. In many respects, he has shown his appreciation of and concern for the citizens of Green Bay and Wisconsin. If Packers fans hadnt previously embraced him like theyd embraced Brett Favre, their reaction to the criticism of Rodgers from me and others shows that they now have.

I apologize to Rodgers for painting him with an unjustifiably broad brush based on a very brief slice of his life. It was wrong to jump to conclusions about whether he treats fans properly, and whether he understands the connection between the fans who support him and the money he makes. Though some have argued that true character is revealed in those fleeting moments, the whole truth about a man falls somewhere between his best days and his worst days. For Rodgers, theres no reason to believe that the truth isnt a lot closer to the best than the worst.

I apologize to Packers fans for distracting you from the afterglow of a game that has ushered in a new golden age of Green Bay football. With a stirring win over the top-seeded Falcons and a historic postseason contest against the Bears on the horizon, you shouldnt have had to worry about an opinion that I delivered too quickly, too strongly, and too stubbornly. I allowed emotions based on my own experiences to overcome reason, and I hope in the future to be able to take a step back before sharing the full thrust of my initial reaction on these pages, especially when the reaction is fueled by emotion based on my own experiences.

I also apologize to Jan Cavanaugh. As Armando Salguero explained it earlier today during my weekly visit with WFTL in South Florida, I tried to rescue a damsel in distress before determining whether she wanted to be rescued. (Actually, thats sort of how I met my wife.) I should have realized that this would bring attention she doesnt want or need, and I would have if I hadnt shared the full thrust of my initial reaction without thinking it through or looking into the good things Rodgers has done.

No one with PFT or NBC has asked me to apologize, and no one has forced me to apologize. (We continue to have full editorial control over the content of the site, and NBC has honored that commitment since day one of our partnership.) Ive had two nights to sleep on it and plenty of other time to think about it. Once my anger at being wrongfully accused of running a payola scheme subsided and my Italian nature to never give in wore off, I realized that I felt bad. And I realized that Id only feel better if I apologized.

Hopefully, weve all learned something from this experience. I know I have. And rather than listing, as I ordinarily would, all the other lessons that I think everyone else involved in this situation should learn, Ill shut up and move on and let folks come to their own conclusions about what they may do differently when confronted with similar circumstances in the future.

Pack93z
14 years ago



Does this change your opinion of Mike Florio?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



No... this isn't the first time he has ran with something before understanding the impact it can have.. the more readers of a site, the more responsibility upon the writer to have control over what he places upon his high traffic site.

It is a recurring pattern that will only be proven with time that he has become a responsible writer/editor of this thoughts and the impact of those thoughts.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
14 years ago
Sorry, already posted by Zero in other thread--

Please delete--
musccy
14 years ago
Gregg Doyle article 

This is the Gregg Doyle article that Florio referenced. It was a little longer so I just posted the link.

He writes exactly what Florio should have written in his first Rodgers response...that he overreacted to a small snippet of who Rodgers is, and should have looked at the larger body of work and his generosity.

I don't deny that the 2 second video doesn't look great for ARod, and can understand the knee jerk response from Florio. However, my frustration was assuming that 2 second clip with little additional context defined him.

I certainly appreciate the most recent response from Florio, and may actually visit pft.com again because of it.
dfosterf
14 years ago
I'd like to think that those of us that went and put thumbs up and thumbs down for the approx 480 comments (as appropriate) for the two articles he threw up helped at least in some small way with Florio's decision to retract.

I had never done such a thing in my life, not ever ONCE hitting one of those "buttons", but was so INCENSED by those two pieces that I took the time to do so, for almost EVERY comment, and was certainly not alone.
voiceofreason
14 years ago
He took a TON of heat. In fairness he didn't apologize until after some of that heat was from other "reporters", including NBC affiliates. Still takes guts to admit a mistake at that level though.
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bozz_2006
14 years ago
If you're going to make an accusation of that level you should fully be prepared to make an apology of that level.
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musccy
14 years ago
i agree with bozz and voiceofreason that (in spite of him claiming he wasn't forced by NBC to do so) he really needed to apologize for this unfair depiction of Rodgers.

However, it did seem like a sincere apology. It wasn't some 2-liner back-handed apology, he manned up and ate a lot of crow.

As 93z said, this isn't the first time he's stuck his foot in his mouth, and he does need to be more responsible if he wants to consider himself a viable journalist, but I give him at least a little credit for apologizing, even if somewhat forced to and a little late.
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