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warhawk
13 years ago
Many teams carry 3rd down RB's that can either block, run, or, catch a pass/screen and it is important that they can do ALL of it otherwise the opposition will know why that RB is in there.

Your going to normally carry three RB's and you better have on that can do all three of these things equally well. Right now Jackson is that guy and he's actually better than most when you combine the skills needed.

When Jackson is in there on 3rd down the defense simply cannot know whether he is going to block, receive, or, carry the ball. If they did it would be much simpler to defend the play.

There are times people here say "when I see that lineup I know exactly what they are going to do" but you can't say that when Jackson is the lone back on 3rd down. There is no way to know.
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gbguy20
13 years ago

I'm likely being overly complimentary, but I was impressed by how he (and Colledge/Sitton) made something out of what appeared to be nothing.

"Greg C." wrote:



Scott Wells was the true blocking champion of this play, at least from the Oline, once colledge got out running he didn't get any contact. I guess you could give him credit for getting in the way of defenders though.

"gbguy20" wrote:



So was Colledge supposed to abandon Jackson and run halfway across the field to find a guy to block?

He was perfect on that play, even though he didn't need to block anyone. He helped make amends for the holding penalty that he committed a play or two earlier.

As for Jackson, he's been doing this for four years now, and it is a very valuable role. Nonstop makes an interesting point, though: Maybe Starks could play that role next year. If he can, then Jackson might become expendable. But I would prefer to have all three of them.

"musccy" wrote:



I never said colledge did bad on the play nor did i say he should have done this or that.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

We should trade Grant now. Starks is obviously our back of the future. Grant is getting older and he's injury prone. Pawn him off on someone else while he still has some value.

(Dammit, Z. You need to hurry up with that 'sarcasm' smiley...)

"Since69" wrote:



Don't think we can get anything for that old broken down nag. Maybe we can trade him to MN for a Brett Favre bobble head.

Or at least a chartreuse font color.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

I'm likely being overly complimentary, but I was impressed by how he (and Colledge/Sitton) made something out of what appeared to be nothing.

"gbguy20" wrote:



Scott Wells was the true blocking champion of this play, at least from the Oline, once colledge got out running he didn't get any contact. I guess you could give him credit for getting in the way of defenders though.

"Greg C." wrote:



So was Colledge supposed to abandon Jackson and run halfway across the field to find a guy to block?

He was perfect on that play, even though he didn't need to block anyone. He helped make amends for the holding penalty that he committed a play or two earlier.

As for Jackson, he's been doing this for four years now, and it is a very valuable role. Nonstop makes an interesting point, though: Maybe Starks could play that role next year. If he can, then Jackson might become expendable. But I would prefer to have all three of them.

"gbguy20" wrote:



I never said colledge did bad on the play nor did i say he should have done this or that.

"musccy" wrote:



Yes, I think I overreacted a bit there. Sorry about that.
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13 years ago

I thought he was great on that play too. I did NOT think he was gonna get even close to the endzone. He grabbed onto the shirt of one of his blockers, and when the time was right, made his move. He's done that ALOT in his time here. yes, he's not a great runner, but he IS valuable, if you ask me.

"Cheesey" wrote:



I thought so too Cheesey. At first I thought he would get a couple of yards then he slowed down and ducked in behind his wall of blockers and they made something out of nothing. good job guys.
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13 years ago
A 3rrd down back doesn't have to be "pass only". I think it was Tony Fisher who was a pretty good receiver out of the backfield but got some pretty good yards when they went to 4 WR and spread the defense then ran him up the middle.
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