IronMan
  • IronMan
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13 years ago
I love this guy.

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Pack93z
13 years ago
I agree with his point that this kid acted out of his own madness from within.

But I do think that a revolution is coming in this country in this country as the divide between the government officials and the common citizen they are suppose to represent grows.

Sooner or later a terrible incident like this won't be fueled by the madness of one.. but by a movement against what those in the government sector represent.

The party shifted because people are growing tired of it.. but what is going to happen when the results don't change with the new party in charge?

Again.. I agree that the media's crush over this incident is off base with why this incident happened.. but I do believe that within my lifetime we will see a battle within this countries boundaries.. common citizen vs government sector.

Hopefully with some other means other than violence.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
4PackGirl
13 years ago
this tragedy happened a few days ago & somehow every tom dick n harry knows that he acted alone, that it had nothing to do with politics, & he's just nuts.
damn - wish i had their crystal ball.
nobody knows what motivated this guy - hell he probably doesn't even know.
but somehow EVERYONE else does?
wow.
MontanaBob
13 years ago
Holy Toledo IronMan,

You had me wondering there for a minute............."what the hell did I do?" I could think of a hundred things I've done in the past few days that have ticked people off, but what did I do to IronMan? (LOL)

It's a tragic situation and whether you're for or against Palin or Giffords, this tragedy should set us all to thinking about what the hell is happening to our country.
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IronMan
  • IronMan
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13 years ago

this tragedy happened a few days ago & somehow every tom dick n harry knows that he acted alone, that it had nothing to do with politics, & he's just nuts.
damn - wish i had their crystal ball.
nobody knows what motivated this guy - hell he probably doesn't even know.
but somehow EVERYONE else does?
wow.

"4PackGirl" wrote:


Yeah I'm going with the idea that Sarah Palin didn't hire this guy to kill a senator, but that's just me.
Pack93z
13 years ago

this tragedy happened a few days ago & somehow every tom dick n harry knows that he acted alone, that it had nothing to do with politics, & he's just nuts.
damn - wish i had their crystal ball.
nobody knows what motivated this guy - hell he probably doesn't even know.
but somehow EVERYONE else does?
wow.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



I am not saying he acted completely alone.. but as of now.. how could anyone, including the media say anything other than he is the only party as of now. Especially blaming it upon a single ad campaign from a specific public official.

My point is.. regardless if it is part of a group or not.. the guy has to have some serious internally issues to walk into a room and just start firing randomly and spraying lead.. from reports without a direct targeted direction or target.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Porforis
13 years ago

this tragedy happened a few days ago & somehow every tom dick n harry knows that he acted alone, that it had nothing to do with politics, & he's just nuts.
damn - wish i had their crystal ball.
nobody knows what motivated this guy - hell he probably doesn't even know.
but somehow EVERYONE else does?
wow.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



Probably had something to do with the easy access to his blog, facebook/myspace posts, statements from former neighbors, and backlash from people trying to twist it into something that WAS political. It's a different world, dear. Literally everyone can see your blog. 🙂
DakotaT
13 years ago
I like how this country labels "crazy" people. 1/5 of the people in the world have a mental illness, and many go untreated. That's an alarming number and the number doesn't come from someone's ass either, it is a true statistic.

The other problem I see in this situation is dismissing this person as a nut job and not somebody with an agenda. Timothy Mcvey (sp) was considered crazy too, but boy did he have a motivated agenda. The people of this country are fed up and they are also armed. Pretty good case for Pack 93Zs revolution ideas.
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Cheesey
13 years ago
I have heard those on the left blaming the right wing, and the right blaming the left.
President Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King and so on. There are nut cases out there that kill people. Whether or not there was a "conspiracy" in ANY of these shootings, who really knows?
Weak minded people do this kind of stuff.
People that knew this shooter when he was in school all said he was weird. Sounds like he was 52 cards short of a full deck.
And let's face it, there are follwers out there, just looking for someone to lead them. Look at Charlie Manson, or Jim Jones. I think most of us would wonder HOW anyone could follow these loose cannons.....but they did.

It's just the sad antics of a madman in my opinion.
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IronMan
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13 years ago

I like how this country labels "crazy" people. 1/5 of the people in the world have a mental illness, and many go untreated. That's an alarming number and the number doesn't come from someone's ass either, it is a true statistic.

The other problem I see in this situation is dismissing this person as a nut job and not somebody with an agenda. Timothy Mcvey (sp) was considered crazy too, but boy did he have a motivated agenda. The people of this country are fed up and they are also armed. Pretty good case for Pack 93Zs revolution ideas.

"DakotaT" wrote:


Whether or not he had an agenda is irrelevant. If I decided that I hated all Chinese people, and started killing every Chinese person I saw, would you say, "He's not crazy, he just hates Chinese people."

Just because someone has an agenda doesn't mean they aren't crazy.
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