Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
You're right! I'd forgotten about Josh McDaniels.

It will be interesting, after the season is over, to look over the past 10 years or so and see how the current spate of firings compares to the annual bloodbath.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Isn't Fox on the last year of his contract?

"TheKanataThrilla" wrote:



I believe so, but I don't think he'll be back next season for the Carolina Panthers. I wouldn't be surprised to see him fired or if he's contract is up, not resigned.
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DakotaT
14 years ago
A GM and owner cannot allow the starting quarterback and head coach in a shouting match caught on camera. That is the definition of dissention and the coach's ass in the on the line. Mike Singletary was in over his head. He a defensive coordinator and was promoted too high.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
Singletary went off the deep end during his HC tenure.. especially this season.

Completely loony.. and it caught up with him in a hurry.

I think Dakota nailed it.. I think the guy can coach.. but being the face of the franchise overwhelmed him. And he snapped.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

After 'inept' effort, 49ers fire Singletary, need to get things right
 

Ann Killion>INSIDE THE NFL


[img_r]http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/writers/ann_killion/12/27/singletary/mike-singletary-si.jpg[/img_r]Mike Singletary's blustery coaching career is now fodder for the next round of light beer commercials.

And the San Francisco 49ers are looking for their fourth coach in seven seasons.

Yet another team makeover for the franchise that was once an emblem of stability. After years of disconnecting from their own legacy, the 49ers need to get it right this time, if they want to build a new stadium and re-energize their dwindling fan base.

On Sunday night team president Jed York fired Singletary, the Hall of Fame linebacker who failed miserably to meet his standard of play as a head coach. Earlier, after Sunday's 25-17 loss to the Rams, which ended the 49ers slim hopes of winning the feeble NFC West, a displeased York told reporters he is planning to hire a general manager.

That's a good sign, a hint that York understands the problem isn't just with the product on the field but within the structure and philosophy of the organization. For years, the 49ers have been operating without experienced NFL leadership.

But such a general manager could also provide a barrier to hiring a big-name coach who may want his own degree of power and autonomy. The names churning in the 49ers rumor mill are ESPN analyst Jon Gruden -- whose first NFL job was as an assistant with the 49ers -- and Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh. Harbaugh could walk the same path that Bill Walsh took more than three decades ago, from Stanford to the 49ers. If Mike Holmgren is interested in returning to coaching, he would be another candidate.

Why any of them would want to work for an organization that has so badly lost its way is another question, entirely.

York hired Singletary two years ago, in a knee-jerk reaction to the end of disastrous Mike Nolan era, to not only be the coach but also the charismatic face of the franchise. Yet he didn't provide Singletary with an experienced mentor to lean on.

York would be wise to try to duplicate the model that most successful teams follow. Placing a strong general manager in charge of football operations would be a marked change for the listing franchise. Terry Donahue, who arrived with no NFL experience and whose reign was a disaster, was the general manager when Steve Mariucci was fired and Dennis Erickson was hired. That was after the 2002 season, the last year the 49ers made the playoffs.

In the years since, the team has floundered, first under Erickson, then Mike Nolan and then Singletary. Both Nolan and Singletary were first-time head coaches with defensive backgrounds. Under them, the 49ers never found any offensive continuity, struggling to develop a quarterback or retain an offensive coordinator.

Despite their NFL inexperience, neither Nolan nor Singletary were subordinate to a general manager: Nolan brought in Scot McCloughan to run player personnel. McCloughan later was given the title of general manager, to strip Nolan of some power, but was fired last spring for unspecified reasons. The team replaced him with Trent Baalke, but without giving him the general manager title.

Meanwhile Singletary -- who has two years remaining on the $10 million, four-year contract he signed late in the 2008 season -- soldiered on, trying to mold the 49ers into a likeness of the 1985 Bears, apparently oblivious to the modern, quarterback-driven NFL. Singletary was wedded to a brand of football that was neither effective nor appealing to a fan base raised on Joe Montana-to-Jerry Rice.

If Singletary had been trying to execute his vision in Chicago, he would have at least been afforded the benefit of the doubt. But in the Bay Area, patience wore thin quickly, especially after an 0-5 start this season.

Sunday's game was a microcosm of all that has gone wrong. With 10 days to prepare -- following the 49ers disastrous Thursday night outing in San Diego on Dec. 16 -- the team came out flat and disorganized. Singletary won the coin toss but opted to kick. His defense couldn't stop the Rams. His team committed six penalties in the first quarter. A weeklong cat-and-mouse game over who would be the starting quarterback offered no solutions: Troy Smith was ineffective. After a sideline screaming match with Singletary he was replaced by Alex Smith, who was equally unproductive.

York described the effort as "inept."

The 49ers have been inept for most of the past eight seasons. Their history of offensive greatness, Super Bowl titles and continuity in leadership is a faded, distant memory. The man holding the title of head coach has been just a part of the problem.

Now they are undergoing yet another makeover. This time, the 49ers need to get it right.


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Rockmolder
14 years ago
Don't worry, San Fran, I'm still available. I'll fix that thing up for you.
TheKanataThrilla
14 years ago

Singletary went off the deep end during his HC tenure.. especially this season.

Completely loony.. and it caught up with him in a hurry.

I think Dakota nailed it.. I think the guy can coach.. but being the face of the franchise overwhelmed him. And he snapped.

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I don't think mentally he fits the mold of a HC for a young team. The old school bad ass stuff doesn't fly with today's players unless you are part of a veteran team.
Formo
14 years ago
Meh, can't say one thing or another of his coaching.. But will say that I'm not surprised about this move.
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Greg C.
14 years ago
Considering that he began his coaching career by pulling down his pants in the locker room, this was pretty much inevitable. He was all bluster and didn't really know what he was doing. Great players almost always make bad coaches. They don't know what it's like to not be a great player. They think it's just a question of their players getting their asses in gear, because that always worked for them when they played. They don't seem to understand the nuances of coaching. That's my theory, anyway.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Considering that he began his coaching career by pulling down his pants in the locker room, this was pretty much inevitable. He was all bluster and didn't really know what he was doing. Great players almost always make bad coaches. They don't know what it's like to not be a great player. They think it's just a question of their players getting their asses in gear, because that always worked for them when they played. They don't seem to understand the nuances of coaching. That's my theory, anyway.

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Something I heard about Michael Jordan was he'd never ever be a good coach. The reasoning was he'd expect his players to play on his level, because after all, he was able to, so why shouldn't others? Basically saying great players have too high expectations for their players.

I agree with that.
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