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Greg C.
14 years ago
1. They got the ball with about four minutes left. With Rodgers, if they scored, they probably would've scored with a minute or two left. Then the other team would've come back and beaten us.

2. The Packers are a better-than-average team most years, so when they win, it's seldom that big of an upset. Their road win against the Jets this year, when the Jets were playing better than anyone, was only a slight upset. The New England game was an upset opportunity only because Rodgers wasn't starting.

3. I think they would've played better with Rodgers because he's better than Flynn. The O-line was due for a wake-up call after how they played in Detroit, regardless of who was the QB.

4. I don't know.

5. Bad luck.

6. You don't draft a return man in the first round. The Dolphins did with Ted Ginn a few years ago, and it didn't work out.

7. No. Pro football is a perplexing game, isn't it? Maybe that's what keeps us coming back for more.
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Stevetarded
14 years ago
Why are people so obsessed with having awesome return guys. It really doesn't make a huge difference. Return TDs are so rare it isn't really worth sacrificing much to try and get a guy who will likely just get you 3 or 4 more yards per return on average.
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Timmons
14 years ago
Well it would be more productive to have a return guy that catches the ball and runs straight up the field instead of watching one of your starting corners run in circles like he is at a high school dance, meanwhile, gaining no yardagea and risking injury. We need a better returner period.

Check out our starting field position stats. If we can win that battle, we will win 2+ more games a year and be a lock for the play offs regularly. Field position matters.
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warhawk
14 years ago

Why are people so obsessed with having awesome return guys. It really doesn't make a huge difference. Return TDs are so rare it isn't really worth sacrificing much to try and get a guy who will likely just get you 3 or 4 more yards per return on average.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



tell that to Philadelphia. Isn't it somewhat ironic that a punt return may well put us in the post season although I hope the Bears get beat tonight and we still have a shot at the North.

I've got one question though. Why is it that the Bears always seem to get teams having to start their 3rd string QB? Talk about being handed a Division Title.

it would be a shame if they get it because they will get bounced like a hard rubber ball the first time they see a QB that has actually started a few games.
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shield4life
14 years ago

Why are people so obsessed with having awesome return guys. It really doesn't make a huge difference. Return TDs are so rare it isn't really worth sacrificing much to try and get a guy who will likely just get you 3 or 4 more yards per return on average.

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Your looking at it completely wrong, we're not looking a guy that's going to return a TD. Just a guy that could get us better field position on important situations.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
The question of the season:

12. Why do the Packers start playing scared (e.g., abandoning the run game) if they're even 3 points down and start playing lax (e.g., playing 15 yards off the WRs) if they're even 3 points up?
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Stevetarded
14 years ago

Why are people so obsessed with having awesome return guys. It really doesn't make a huge difference. Return TDs are so rare it isn't really worth sacrificing much to try and get a guy who will likely just get you 3 or 4 more yards per return on average.

"shield4life" wrote:



Your looking at it completely wrong, we're not looking a guy that's going to return a TD. Just a guy that could get us better field position on important situations.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



The difference between our guys and someone "good" is only a few yards on average. That's my point, it's not worth wasting a high draft or a lot of money on.
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dhazer
14 years ago

Why are people so obsessed with having awesome return guys. It really doesn't make a huge difference. Return TDs are so rare it isn't really worth sacrificing much to try and get a guy who will likely just get you 3 or 4 more yards per return on average.

"warhawk" wrote:



tell that to Philadelphia. Isn't it somewhat ironic that a punt return may well put us in the post season although I hope the Bears get beat tonight and we still have a shot at the North.

I've got one question though. Why is it that the Bears always seem to get teams having to start their 3rd string QB? Talk about being handed a Division Title.

it would be a shame if they get it because they will get bounced like a hard rubber ball the first time they see a QB that has actually started a few games.

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Ya I know what your saying we had to play against detroits 2nd string qb the first time and we won and then played against their 3rd stringer and lost. plus we got Mcnaab which is now 3rd string, Kolb who is 2nd string, Kitna who is 2nd string, 49ers backup. So ya damn the Bears always get the breaks when it comes to qbs.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

1- Why doesn't Aaron Rodgers ever get a chance to end games like this, it usually always the opposing team that ends up scoring with leaving twenty seconds left.

2- Why can't we ever upset teams like these? We always end up losing to an upset team once in a while, but it never happens for us to win an upset game.

3- Would the Packers have played as good if Aaron Rodgers was in?

4- Why did Mike McCarthy go 3 and out with 3 passes right after Patriots scored and we still had the lead?

*** 5 *** - Why in the hell is all our team injured??? Specially all the key players !!!

Grant - Finley - Burnett - Barnett - Poppinga - Jenkins - Chillar etc...

6- Can we use our 1st pick this year to draft a special teams KR / PR please for the love of god?

7- Am I the only one that wonders about these questions?

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1. Combination of things if you ask me. First of all, with Rodgers at the helm, we always score too fast, it seems. I like what we did now, going with the 4 minute drill. With Rodgers, we're bound to throw a deep ball some time with as much as 3 minutes on the clock.

The Panthers game in 2008 is the most obvious of these instances.

Another thing is that we're always content with throwing the ball ove the middle. It happend this time, as well. When the defense guards the sidelines, we just throw the slant over the middle to Driver.

And then, which is somewhat tied to that, we never actually seem to be organized on those 2 minute drills to win the game. Whether the guys don't get to the line, there's no play call in, the receivers aren't lined up right etc.

2. Yeah, it sure seems like that. I think it has a lot to do with the homerism around here. Or around any fanbase, really. Remember those games against the Cowboys and the Ravens? I think those were upset games, looking at how those two teams were playing at that point.

3. As good? That's quite likely. That Patriots defense is very overrated. It's the offense you have to be scared about. I think that we would've played differently, but just as good.

4. We didn't pass a lot on 1st down. Trying it once to catch them off guard sounds like a good idea. That puts us in 2nd and 10. When you have to go 10 yards on 2nd down, a pass is justifiable easily. Then we end up on 3rd and 10, which is an obvious passing situation.

I also liked the vote of confidence in Flynn there.

5. I don't know, but I do know that that is TT's fault somehow.

6. Yes. That sounds like a great idea. Maybe we can draft a longsnapper in the 2nd and a gunner in the 3rd.
peteralan71
14 years ago


*** 5 *** - Why in the hell is all our team injured??? Specially all the key players !!!

Grant - Finley - Burnett - Barnett - Poppinga - Jenkins - Chillar etc...

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My knee jerk reaction is to point a finger at the Strength and Conditioning Coaches (Lovat, Redding, and Jackson), because is it honestly possible to see guys drop like flies as they have unless there were some sort of variable that is missing? If I were a betting man, I would say that some S&C coaches could have avoided such casualties. However, I would also say that bad luck played an enormous part in the Shit Sandwich we have been dealt this season, given the amount of quality players that have gone down instead of somebody like Francois (which in turn would have counted for 1 less loss 🙂 ).
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beast (1h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status
Zero2Cool (1h) : Forgot there was even a game last night haha
TheKanataThrilla (1h) : That was terrible.
TheKanataThrilla (1h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.
beast (2h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
beast (2h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime
beast (2h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing
Zero2Cool (3h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is
Zero2Cool (3h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true
beast (3h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management
wpr (5h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Mucky Tundra (13h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago
beast (14h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years
Zero2Cool (20h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.
packerfanoutwest (20h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it
beast (21h) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done
Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.
Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore
packerfanoutwest (25-Dec) : Feliz Navidad!
Zero2Cool (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas!
beast (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
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