Look, I know we're all mad, but look at the facts.

We almost beat the Patriots, the PATRIOTS with a back-up QB. Now some may think this is just the unknown skill of our back-up QB, but it's not just that. This took a lot of planning, a lot of finding which players fit where, and balancing Flynn with the Pat's D. The Packer's staff did an AMAZING job with this. The only thing which is too bad was the 20 seconds given up where a play could have been called, but you can't control when a back-up has no idea what he is doing and knows no other play to call.

Maybe I'm being naive, but that's what I noticed. All things considered, they did a hell of a job. Bravo, Packer's Coaching staff.

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+1. Agreed.

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What makes people mad is that we outplayed NE and should have one, but lost because of a few bone headed mistakes.

But this is the key - the GBP have always one and lost as a team, and that should never be changed because then you become the Minnesota Vikings who always have a finger at a coach, player, or referee.

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We call 2 timeouts in the last minute and a half, and Flynn doesn't know what play to call? #coachingfail

Of course you do, although I do too for the most part. I think people are just upset with the Pack dominating another team and, in the end, coming away with a loss due to mm's HC miscues.

Time-management, 4th down decisions, and challenges are all the head coaching decisions, and mm has proven himself to be inept with all three.

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Why does everyone think we're mad, just because we're sick of MM's teams pissing games away? That's our job as fans, to call out those responsible. The Patriots are not gods. Our QB was better than Tom Brady today. But we spotted the Patriots too many points.

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Speak for yourself. I'm mad, because I watch 58 minutes of football wondering all the while how mm is going to come up short during the last two minutes.

I simply want the Packers to lose or win, rather than dominating in a loss or playing terribly in a win. MM's imposed mediocrity on the Packers, has made even a home win against the Lions dissatisfying and a road loss to the Patriots, with a backup QB, unbelievable.

MM's utter mediocrity allows the team to always be competitive, but, being a card carrying pessimist, I am always left with disappointment.

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+ 1 Billion

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What the flying fuck is going on here? You try to have one thread not bashing the man, and we still get more people posting on here who obviously grew up under power lines.

I didn't like the 1st TO of the 2nd half w/ 4 min. however, with 1:10 or whatever it was, I'm not opposed to using it, you still have one in your backpocket, and the one with 50 some seconds to go makes sense...you're coming off a key sack and need to regroup.

As M M explained in the press conference, part of the delay on the last play was they didn't know the down and distance (thus didn't know if it was 1st and could spike it). I would have liked to see things executed better too...but at the same time, you have virtually a rookie at qb, and at best, the play starts at 15-18 sec, and if you do complete a pass, you'd be lucky to get in 1 more play. The confussion cost us maybe 1 more attempt.

I'm completely stunned by the anti-mccarthy sentiments, we damn near beat a team that was embarassing some of the best teams in the league w/out Zombo, Jenkins, Rodgers and the myriad other players we've lost throughout the year. The guy has the balls to start off with an onside and who on here is saying anything about that? We control the ball for nearly 20 more min - and outgain them by 200 some yards, but our play calling sucked? I just don't know what else to say...we lost a close game, it happens - look at the Pats in the SB vs. the Giants, good teams do occassionaly lose.

I'm as tolerant and understanding as they usually come from a coaches decisions standpoint and I love to side with them and stand by them. But eventually these little "trends" start to show up every single game and you can only estimate that the coaches are failing in some aspect. I'm all for supporting the coaches but at some point start taking a WTF tally each game and tell me that the players were responsible. I know McCarthy cant catch every pass or actually break down and make some tackles but he can sure as hell figure out football and make some different decision without being bullheaded

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I don't mean to continually pick on your posts bandthedrum...just the general sentiment.

What are these boneheaded plays? The Packers scorched the pats on the field, and primarily thanks to 1 pitiful ST coverage, and a shaq-esque pick on flynn's int the Pats were in a game they didn't belong in - a game that the Packers dominated. Few on here disagree with the fact that the Packers dominated this game, so if that's the case, please point out how and where Mike failed this team.

It's not just tonight... it's the entire season, you think it's some coincidence we continually lose close games and fuck up with challenges and the QB doesnt know what plays to run at the end of the game?

At some point you have to stop drinking the kool aid and ask yourself if a really well coached disciplined team would lose all these games. Will ride the next coach's junk like you do with McCarthy, what has he ever really done for us?

Ted, in my eyes has put a whole shit ton of talent on this team at a crazy minimal cost and MM cant ever produce a winner... What youre telling me is you think we arent talented???

I don't blame MM for every little thing, you just don't seem to want to blame him for anything and I dont get why?

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The Packers also won close games vs. the Vikings, Jets, and Lions but we seem to forget those too.

Are the Packers the only team to lose close games? Steelers just lost a nailbiter to the Jets today, Giants just pissed away a game vs. the Eagles. It's not just the Packers who lose these close ones. When 2 good teams face each other, believe it or not, they don't both win.

The spread going in was +11 for the Pack, and yet the Packers dominated the game and damn near won. If Woodson can catch a ball that hits him square in the hands, if Walden can catch a tipped Brady ball that goes straight through his arms, if our team can stop a 300 pound fat ass from running down the field...

So in summary, Mike Tomlin and Tom Coughlin need to be fired this week, and since Mike McCarthy needs to be canned, and he only lost to the Pats by 4 points, then Lovie Smith and Rex Ryan need to be fired 10 times over...oh yeah, and the Bucs lost a close one, lets fire Raheem Morris...oh, and New Orleans has 4 losses, lets shit can Sean Payton...how do they lose to the Ravens, I mean, c'mon. They always let the close ones go!

Good point............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... :/

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Musccy, I think a lot of fans are getting exhausted of "damn near winning." I'd rather have an overtly bad team or an unmistakably good team than a team who always seems just on the cusp but never quite there. The Packers under Mike McCarthy often feels like that girlfriend who can bring you right to the edge of orgasm but never quite lets you cum. After a while the blueballs just start to HURT.

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Spread here in england was a generous +13.5 ... I added them to a parley bet so didnt make out (keep trying to pick the mega big hits; rather then some 'sure' wins).

so far this year I havnt won one decent one yet ... least year I would win one good one at least 1x a month.

I blame the o-line they give up a sack,M.M has to come up with something,and time is ticking but o-line was awful in that play .

I get that we lose some close games...it sucks, and I don't like blue (or green?) balls either.

but 32 teams don't win the Super Bowl each year, go undefeated, win every close game, etc.

People are pissing and moaning because a qb in his first ever start didn't handle a 2 minute offense to perfection...something that backups rarely practice. McCarthy didn't "coach him up!" REALLY?!?...if you honestly thought he'd play as well as he did for the other 59:37, then will you buy some lottery tickets for me tonight?

The Saints schedule  Here is the Saints schedule. Due to free assocation I picked them over anyone else. They lost in OT to Atl (can't win a close one) and got blown out by the lowly Cards and Browns...just lost to the Ravens in the 4th quarter by a larger margin than the Pack, and they had Drew Brees starting. I guess everyone in NO has some blue balls today too and should fire Payton.

What's your point? I've never said this season would be a failure if we don't make the Super Bowl. Hell, last year I was one of the people scoffing at the notion (expressed by many people on this site) that Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson "had" to win a playoff game or they should be out.

None of that justifies idiotic mistakes like not having a contingent 4th down play called in the last few seconds of the game.

What really disappoints me about that final sequence is that veterans like Donald Driver and Greg Jennings -- not to mention the offensive line -- were standing aimlessly around their backup quarterback, instead of urging him to the line to get a play -- any play -- off.

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My point is that people are demanding perfection in every game in every play, and it just doesn't happen. 2 good teams play and you're going to see decisive plays that alter the outcome of the game.

The last 23 sec wasn't pretty, I acknowledge. However, MM said in post game that part of the confussion was determining the down and distance. If it's 1st, you spike it obviously. So maybe 17 seconds (give or take) left and you should know...but even if you're at the line ready to play...you complete something and are at 13-15 seconds, and at best you line up for 1 spike and 1 more play...or you realize you have 15 seconds left, put all your eggs into one basket and make sure you get what could be your last chance right.

I get that it was ugly, but I also don't think it's as cut and dry as we all wish it were, and keep in mind, again, that backups don't get a lot of work in the 2 minute in practice, yet this is how so many are defining Mike's incompetence by.