Prediction: We'll beat the Pats. ·

nerdmann
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14 years ago

This is part of MM's pattern. Light the world on fire during the preseason, win 3 of the first 4 games, then find your way to .500 at midseason. At this point, they come to jesus, right the ship and begin to contend. HOWEVER, along this winning streak that they cobble together at the end of the season they always have some weird humiliating seemingly back breaking loss. That was this game. The next week, they come back to as underdogs to beat a team no one thought they'd have a chance against.
So yeah, I'm picking us to beat New England. If not, we'll come damn close. It will be a tough, hard fought game. Our team will look very good.
Not saying we'll make the playoffs. But SOMETHING will happen to give us a shot. That, I guarantee. So don't despair Packers fans. The fat lady hasn't sung yet. It ain't over till it's over, and there's plenty of football yet to be played.
MARK IT DOWN!

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Zero2Cool
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14 years ago

and then the headlines will read 'WHO are the Packers? What team is gonna show this week?"

PackFanWithTwins
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14 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised. Even with Flynn. With Rodgers questionable, the game plan is going to be stripped down. There are going to be many more short routes, with a long option instead of the 3-5 Wr running 15 yards deep. It will look like NE playing NE offensively with the dump offs.

Defensively, we need to be aggressive. Can't sit back in zone and let Brady pick his shots. He needs to be pressured, and we need to disrupt the WR off the line. The secondary is the healthiest part of the defense. Let use them more.

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go.pack.go.
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14 years ago

and then the headlines will read 'WHO are the Packers? What team is gonna show this week?"

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Who cares what people think? I certainly don't. It doesn't affect how they will / won't make the playoffs.

Nonstopdrivel
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14 years ago

Even if the Packers lose to the Patriots . . .

. . . as long as they beat the New York Giants AND the Chicago Bears . . .

. . . AND the New York Giants beat EITHER the Philadelphia Eagles OR the Washington Redskins . . .

. . . AND the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lose to EITHER the Detroit Lions OR the Seattle Seahawks OR the New Orleans Saints . . .

. . . then the Packers are in the playoffs.

That is an extremely likely scenario. Unless the Bears lose out, which I don't see happening, the Patriots game is irrelevant to the Packers' postseason prospects; neither beating nor losing to the Patriots affects their odds of making the playoffs in any way. In my opinion, given that they do not have to beat the Patriots to make the playoffs, they probably should not even try. The smartest course of action would be to bench Aaron Rodgers, Donald Driver, Clay Matthews III, and any other starters who are ailing. They should treat this game as another bye week and return the team healthy and rested for the final two games, which ARE must-wins. Doing this would give Matt Flynn some valuable snaps in a real gametime situation against a challenging opponent and improve the teams chances of beating the Giants and Bears.

Considering, however, that we have a coaching staff who was too bullheaded to let an opposing team score when it would have given the offense a fighting chance to stage a last-minute comeback, I don't see it happening.

porky88
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14 years ago

The game will be close if Aaron Rodgers is starting, but if not, it's a blowout.

I think with Rodgers, Green Bay's offense can score. They matchup well because they can spread them out. Something Chicago and New York couldn't do. Neither could Pittsburgh for that matter. Indy could and they were able to keep it close. It's what works for the most part.

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BangTheDrum
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14 years ago

If A-Rod doesnt play were going to lose this game by 40

Ba da da, Ba dadada GO PACK GO

cheeseheads123
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14 years ago

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Based on that espn playoff thing the patriots game is not irrelevant to the packers postseason. With a win against the Patriots it gives us one more out. With a win against the Patriots the Bears can still beat the Vikings and we can still get a 2nd or 6th seed. They just have to lose to us and the Jets and we need to win out.

flep
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14 years ago

If we lose, we lose by 3.

I'm afraid that's the law this seeason (OK I know we got beat by 4 by the Lions)

I dont want us to lose/throw this one I still want us to be in with a shout of winning the division. One loss by us and one win by the Bears and that's the division gone. Losing is a habit easily developed.

Whilst it is still on for us to win the division we give it our best shot.

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K_Buz
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14 years ago

#10

Without Rodgers = NO WAY
With Rodgers = slight chance

Nonstopdrivel
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14 years ago

#11

So what if they start Rodgers and he gets his bell rung and he's out for the remainder of the season? What then? You can't make me believe the offensive line is going to be magically better this game, especially since it hasn't been good in any game this year. I guarantee Belichick's defense is going to be gunning for Rodgers all day and the only way he survives is on his feet, which only increases his chances of hitting his head again.

Why risk the long-term stability at quarterback for a victory that only marginally increases the team's chances of making the postseason -- and is only relevant if the Bears lose two of their last three?

I'm not a big fan of honor. More often than not, honor is a loser's rationalization for getting his ass kicked. I'd rather be pragmatic about this, even if it mathematically reduces the Packers' postseason chances.

dhazer
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14 years ago

#12

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

So in your thinking we might as well bench Rodgers for the rest of the year because the Giants and Bears fron 4 are alot better than the Pats. I have lost faith sorry to say but I can easily see us losing the last 4 of the season. We can stop the run so we are in deep trouble against the Giants, and the Pats are just unstoppable right now. Look at the teams they have rolled start with the Steelers they were the #2 scoring defense and then they roll the Jets defense and now they roll the Bears defense that was #4 I believe. I think if we go into the last game of the season on a 3 game losing streak we will win because by then the Bears will have sewn up the #2 seed and be resting players. I know I sound like a downer but thats how I see things happening. These are 3 big games and we know the Packers haven't been very good in big games the past few years.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Nonstopdrivel
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14 years ago

#13

I haven't lost faith. I'm not even chalking this game up as a loss. But for chrissakes, Rodgers just had his second concussion in 10 weeks. Give the man a chance to clear his head.

Am I the only one who remembers the three weeks of abject suckage he put out after his first concussion? Why should we endanger this team's chances of winning the important games -- the Giants and Bears -- in a valiant attempt to bring Rodgers back too quickly?

Zero2Cool
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14 years ago

#14

I have lost faith sorry to say but I can easily see us losing the last 4 of the season. We can stop the run so we are in deep trouble against the Giants, and the Pats are just unstoppable right now.

"dhazer" wrote:

Holy shit batman! We're gonna be 8 - 9????

dhazer
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14 years ago

#15

I have lost faith sorry to say but I can easily see us losing the last 4 of the season. We can stop the run so we are in deep trouble against the Giants, and the Pats are just unstoppable right now.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Holy shit batman! We're gonna be 8 - 9????

"dhazer" wrote:

Counting the Lions game smart ass 😛 Lions, Pats, Giants, and Bears is 4 😃 I learned that by counting cows in the school yard

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Pack93z
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14 years ago

#16

Non.. you realize if we lose to the Pats and the Bears beat the Vikes.. we can't win the division correct?

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

dfosterf
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14 years ago

#17

Ya, the Vikes, you know...the team that is about to--but has not yet---As of WEDNESDAY...

SIGNED a STREET free agent quarterback, and will be

STARTING him Monday night against the Bears.

Our best shot in this one is if players start freezing to death, and I'm totally good with that. :P

...At least there's a real shot that the pipes will all be frozen, the crappers and urinals will not work, and there is no beer at TCF, and probably no concession stands to boot...

Let 'em all wade in a frozen quagmire of frozen feces and urine 😛

If Packer fans are gonna be miserable, it is somewhat comforting to know that this game has the real potential to go down as the shittiest experience in a generation for the fans of any NFL team.

warhawk
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14 years ago

#18

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

It seems doable under these scenario's. What irks me is that the Bears seem to always catch teams w/o their QB and in this case not even their stadium for crying out loud and we just keep having guys go down like it's Iwo Jima or something.

They finally got their due against a team that was healthy and hot but they are few and too far between as far as I'm concerned. If Favre doesn't go this will be something like three out of 4 weeks the Bears caught a team without their starter. Lucky pricks.

I think if we play real sound football we have a shot against the Pats. With the Jets moving backwards and NE making every game look easy this will be a tough one for them to match our intensity. This is a place where a team already in and rolling like they are could stumble.

Half of me wants to do what you suggest here and rest guys and the other half wants me to see us go toe to toe and I think it will probably be the later after this last loss. It won't be a devastating loss but it would sure be a HUGE win for the team. Not so much from the standpoint of the playoff picture as much as regaining some mojo.

"The train is leaving the station."

Pack93z
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14 years ago

#19

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

We lose this weekend.. and the Bears win.. they lockup the division.. which is our best chance of getting in.

We are on the outside looking in without a ton of help.

If we win out.. the Bears game vs the Vikes matters little.. if the Jets beat the Bears and we take care of our business against the Bears.

We need to win out to give ourselves many outs.. not just one.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Nonstopdrivel
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14 years ago

#20

Yes, you're right -- under the scenario I outlined, the Packers wouldn't win the division.

However, which is worse: To sacrifice short-term success for a better shot at the wildcard, or to bring Rodgers back prematurely in a quixotic attempt to nail the best team in the league, thereby risking the exacerbation of his injury and decreasing the team's chances of beating the Giants and Bears?

Rodgers wasn't back to full speed for at least three weeks after his last concussion. What makes us think he'll be ready to go for the Patriots game and be in any way accurate or reliable?

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