peteralan71
13 years ago

Something that saddens me is that Aaron Rodgers' MVP prospects essentially evaporated today. Not only did he fail to complete the game, but Tom Brady had yet another dominant performance against the Bears. Short of a catastrophic failure in the next three weeks, I think Brady is a lock for MVP.

This game was a vivid example of exactly why I hate running quarterbacks. As fun as it is to watch them scramble for those extra few yards or run it in for that clutch touchdown, the fact is they just get hurt too much. It's pretty rare that a running quarterback plays every game in a season (see: Vick, Mike). I'll be surprised if Vick makes it through the rest of this season unscathed.

I'd far rather have a solid pocket quarterback and a serviceable running back than a running quarterback who's constantly being put in harm's way. It was almost inevitable that Rodgers would be put out of a game sometime this season. Hopefully it doesn't happen again, but I'm not optimistic.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I was thinking the exact same thing today shortly after he went out. It was obvious that the part he played today was not played well, and when he went down, it became apparent that he may not play next week, which would albeit destroy his chances at getting the MVP that most analysts pre-crowned him with before the season. Then, seeing how Brady played today, it was, for lack of a better word, over.

In regard to the 'running QB' portion of your statement: there are other problems that need to be fixed first. He has to be a running QB on this team to survive, because our line simply is not holding up for him. Even with a 2 TE set and a RB in the backfield, he gets hit or rushed on almost half the plays. His feet are an enormous part of what makes him a successful QB. The problem is how he finishes. The guy needs to learn to slide. It is as simple as that. The NFL has the slide rules set up for a reason, to protect the QB. If he doesn't utilize that, then we will continue to run into these problems, because I don't see our line becoming good enough for him to be able to sit in the pocket every play, at least not any time soon.
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hos327
13 years ago
Great point by the both of you (drivel and peter)
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GoPack1984
13 years ago

Something that saddens me is that Aaron Rodgers' MVP prospects essentially evaporated today. Not only did he fail to complete the game, but Tom Brady had yet another dominant performance against the Bears. Short of a catastrophic failure in the next three weeks, I think Brady is a lock for MVP.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I have to admit this has crossed my mind as well. I was thinking if Aaron played well today and then went on the road and beat Brady and the Patriots, that he would be right in the MVP race with Brady. I'm more concerned about the team winning games, but I can't help but think about some of the individual player awards from time to time.
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gotarace
13 years ago
One thing i have to say is hats off to the young Detroit d-line. They played lights out today and never really had to blitz. It exposed our weakness for the last 5 seasons...a undersized o-line that can't play with true powerful defensive linemen.
What scares me is that Detroit is a true up and coming team. With one more quality draft and the return of their starting quarterback, this could be a recurring nightmare for us Packer fans.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I wonder if Greg C. still finds it "touching" when people express respect for the team the Lions organization has fielded this year.
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Johnson
13 years ago

And what is it with Mike McCarthy in key moments? Aaron Rodgers gets his bell rung. The Packers, very appropriately, call a timeout so he can be evaluated on the sidelines. He returns to the line of scrimmage looking like a punchdrunk boxer trying to hold it together in the corner, and they go with five wide, empty backfield? Of course he gets slammed to the turf and is out for the remainder of the game. Why wouldn't they call a run in that first play to give Rodgers a chance to get his feet back under him? I suppose Mike McCarthy will tell us that they didn't get the replay with a clear view of his face until several plays later. Andrew Quarless deserves to be benched for his performance on that play alone. He didn't make the slightest attempt to block his man; he looked like he didn't even want to be on the field.

"TheKanataThrilla" wrote:



I was screaming at the tv when that sack happened. That is when you put in Flynn and try and run out the half and give Rodgers a break.
I also don't know why McCarthy didn't call a timeout near the end to try and scheme a high % short yardage play and calm Flynn down.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Because he doesn't think well on his feet.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I'm starting to doubt myself now. Was it Quarless or Crabtree who whiffed on his block on that play? Or was it both?
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TheKanataThrilla
13 years ago

I'm starting to doubt myself now. Was it Quarless or Crabtree who whiffed on his block on that play? Or was it both?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I thought it was Quarless, as that is who I remember the commentators naming as they showed the replay.

It is definitely a time when we miss a Bubba Franks type blocking TE in our line-up.
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13 years ago

I'm starting to doubt myself now. Was it Quarless or Crabtree who whiffed on his block on that play? Or was it both?

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I know there was one play where Crabtree got completely run over by a DE for a sack. It was a very bad play for him, but my bigger concern was why they had a TE blocking a DE one-on-one in the first place. That's a recipe for disaster.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

Something that saddens me is that Aaron Rodgers' MVP prospects essentially evaporated today. Not only did he fail to complete the game, but Tom Brady had yet another dominant performance against the Bears. Short of a catastrophic failure in the next three weeks, I think Brady is a lock for MVP.

This game was a vivid example of exactly why I hate running quarterbacks. As fun as it is to watch them scramble for those extra few yards or run it in for that clutch touchdown, the fact is they just get hurt too much. It's pretty rare that a running quarterback plays every game in a season (see: Vick, Mike). I'll be surprised if Vick makes it through the rest of this season unscathed.

I'd far rather have a solid pocket quarterback and a serviceable running back than a running quarterback who's constantly being put in harm's way. It was almost inevitable that Rodgers would be put out of a game sometime this season. Hopefully it doesn't happen again, but I'm not optimistic.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Let's see now: Rodgers has played almost three full seasons, and how many games has he missed? Zero. How much time has he missed? Part of the Tampa Bay game two years ago and the second half of yesterday's game. That's all I can remember him missing due to injury in three years. I can handle that.

Rodgers is an excellent scrambler, but he is not a "running quarterback" in the way that Michael Vick is or Steve Young was. He just needs to slide more often. That's all there is to it. Let's hope he's learned his lesson. His poor decision yesterday very well may cost the Packers a playoff spot.
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