nerdmann
14 years ago
Kiper had Starks ranked as the second best RB in the country, behind only CJ Spiller. That was before the injury.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago

I said a while back that Starks would have been a second rounder had he not gotten hurt at Buffalo. He ran like you would expect a second rounder too. The only thing that was missing was explosion. He'll get that once he gets the feel for the game back.

I have no problem with him running high. Whatever gets the yards.

I'm cautiously optimistic that he can be the the first and second down RB that this team needs this year.

However, Grant is not going anywhere. If anything, this season proved that you can never have enough depth at RB. A combination of Starks and Grant, with Jackson on third down would give GB a very strong RB core heading into next season.

"porky88" wrote:



Heh. 2005 proved that you can never have enough depth at RB. WR as well. Don't be surprised if Ted Thompson drafts yet another RB and yet another WR in 2011.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
wtf does does 2005 have to do with Starks debut?
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14 years ago
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macbob
14 years ago

Was hoping Starks would get 20+ carries in his debut. He looked good. Not a runner to the outside at all, but solid runner up the middle.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Zombie, I am completely astonished. I was losing all hope for you. lol

+1

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longtimefan
14 years ago

This the kind of back we need, positive yards per carry and no tap dancing at the L.O.S. Would like to see what he brings in the passing game as well. If he pans out, it will be kind of interesting to see what we do next season with Grant and BJackson.

"nerdmann" wrote:





Grant could be the odd man out. He can't even catch as well as Bjack, and isn't the 3rd down pass pro guy.
The best thing about this is that I don't have to hear people say, "He hasn't taken a hit in two years," anymore. Excruciating.

"DakotaT" wrote:



In one game your ready to toss out Grant for him?
macbob
14 years ago

The goal of a RB is to take pressure off the passing game. Grant does that. He has to be accounted for.

"zombieslayer" wrote:




Aaaahhh!!! Zombie--you're channeling me. I feel like I've been transported into some kind of parallel universe. :lol:

+1, by the way, for your comments on Grant. He's got to be more talented than his detractors make out if he's been racking up 1200+ yds each year.
longtimefan
14 years ago

LMAO.. now we are cutting Grant because Starks ran the ball like an NFL back.. seriously we have been deprived of a good running attack this season if we have come to this.

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"pack93z" wrote:



Exactly what I was thinking in prev post
zombieslayer
14 years ago



Aaaahhh!!! Zombie--you're channeling me. I feel like I've been transported into some kind of parallel universe. :lol:

+1, by the way, for your comments on Grant. He's got to be more talented than his detractors make out if he's been racking up 1200+ yds each year.

"macbob" wrote:



Macbob - You're new here. I'm actually an amateur writer and one of my writing tools I use is exaggeration for effect. Like when I said "screw the run," I'm fully aware we still need to run the ball against teams like the Giants and even someone like the Pats who are the NFL's worst at defending the pass, we still need to run 20% of the time.

We also occasionally need to run to soften up the DL and to help chew up clock time.

It's an exaggeration. I hoped I made it obvious.

Then I became even more pro-pass when everyone became doom & gloom about our lack of running game. I don't like doom & gloom. Accomplishes nothing. So I found teams that won SBs with crappy running games and cited them.

As for Grant, I've always been a Grant fan and was defending him heavily last year when people were saying he's "boring" and all the other stuff they were calling him. The guy does nothing but produce. He gives the D a breather as he continually gets 4+ yards a run and helps keep the O on the field.

I'm hoping Starks can be like a Grant-lite.

wtf does does 2005 have to do with Starks debut?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You completely missed what Porky said then. I was responding to him about depth. He said that 2010 showed you can never have too much depth at RB. I said we already learned that in 2005.
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porky88
14 years ago

I said a while back that Starks would have been a second rounder had he not gotten hurt at Buffalo. He ran like you would expect a second rounder too. The only thing that was missing was explosion. He'll get that once he gets the feel for the game back.

I have no problem with him running high. Whatever gets the yards.

I'm cautiously optimistic that he can be the the first and second down RB that this team needs this year.

However, Grant is not going anywhere. If anything, this season proved that you can never have enough depth at RB. A combination of Starks and Grant, with Jackson on third down would give GB a very strong RB core heading into next season.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Heh. 2005 proved that you can never have enough depth at RB. WR as well. Don't be surprised if Ted Thompson drafts yet another RB and yet another WR in 2011.

"porky88" wrote:



I like to pretend 2005 never happened. 😞
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