zombieslayer
14 years ago

I'm still worried about our defense playing an elite QB. Here are the QB's we've played this season:

Kevin Kolb/Mike Vick (We killed Kolb and Vick killed us)
Trent Edwards (He got cut a week after we played him)
Jay Cutler (Decent QB but throws a lot of errant passes and has a terrible line)
Shaun Hill (I actually like Hill. Decent QB)
Donovan McNabb (McNabb is not playing like McNabb of old)
Chad Henne (Mediocre QB--just got benched in favor of Chad Pennington)
Brett Favre (Not playing like the Favre of last season but still decent)
Mark Sanchez (Young and inconsistent but not terrible)
Jon Kitna (Old but with a decent arm still)

Here's the QB's we'll be playing in the next 7 games:
Brett Favre
Matt Ryan
Troy or Alex Smith
Matt Stafford or Shaun Hill
Tom Brady
Eli Manning
Jay Cutler

I feel like in this second half of the season we'll be able to see what our defense is really made of.

"djcubez" wrote:



Favre, Brady, and I hate to say this, Eli Manning are our tests when it comes to QBs.

I don't like Matt Ryan. The Falcons are good despite him.

Cutler has no OL. Not fair to hate on Cutler when he gets David Carr'ed. Cutler would be a good QB if they had a line.

Stafford I really like but he's not coming back by the time we play him. I already dropped him from my fantasy team, which is a bummer because he's a good "unknown" QB.
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brnt247
14 years ago

I'm still worried about our defense playing an elite QB. Here are the QB's we've played this season:

Kevin Kolb/Mike Vick (We killed Kolb and Vick killed us)
Trent Edwards (He got cut a week after we played him)
Jay Cutler (Decent QB but throws a lot of errant passes and has a terrible line)
Shaun Hill (I actually like Hill. Decent QB)
Donovan McNabb (McNabb is not playing like McNabb of old)
Chad Henne (Mediocre QB--just got benched in favor of Chad Pennington)
Brett Favre (Not playing like the Favre of last season but still decent)
Mark Sanchez (Young and inconsistent but not terrible)
Jon Kitna (Old but with a decent arm still)

Here's the QB's we'll be playing in the next 7 games:
Brett Favre
Matt Ryan
Troy or Alex Smith
Matt Stafford or Shaun Hill
Tom Brady
Eli Manning
Jay Cutler

I feel like in this second half of the season we'll be able to see what our defense is really made of.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Favre, Brady, and I hate to say this, Eli Manning are our tests when it comes to QBs.

I don't like Matt Ryan. The Falcons are good despite him.

Cutler has no OL. Not fair to hate on Cutler when he gets David Carr'ed. Cutler would be a good QB if they had a line.

Stafford I really like but he's not coming back by the time we play him. I already dropped him from my fantasy team, which is a bummer because he's a good "unknown" QB.

"djcubez" wrote:



Ryan is awfully good at home, where the Packers will play him later this season.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago



Ryan is awfully good at home, where the Packers will play him later this season.

"brnt247" wrote:



Yikes! You're right. It's almost like he's 2 QBs. Really good at home, sucks away.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Yikes! You're right. It's almost like he's 2 QBs. Really good at home, sucks away.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I don't know why you say "sucks away" as if it was a bad thing.



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3 100-yard games Packers wide receivers have had this season. James Jones has two of them.

330:15 Difference between how much time the Packers have been in the lead (377 minutes 37 seconds) and their opponents have been in the lead (47:22).
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701 Yards from scrimmage Detroit Lions running back Jahvid Best has this season, most of any rookie in the NFL.

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0-8 Combined road record of the division's two dome teams, Detroit and Minnesota.

39 Combined fumbles the Bears and Lions have forced this season. The Bears rank No. 1 (20), and the Lions are tied for second (19).

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Greg C.
14 years ago

I always end up saying the same thing when this subject comes up, but here goes again: More rushing attempts does not lead to wins. It is the other way around: Wins lead to more rushing attempts. To be more specific, when a team is leading and/or its O-line is winning the battle in the trenches, it is going to run the ball more than it would if it is trailing and/or its O-line is losing the battle in the trenches.

"macbob" wrote:



Greg-agree up to a point, but your explanation does not seem to match up with our stats from this year.

Except for the Miami game (which we were losing 13-10 at the end of 3), we've been winning every single game through the first 3 quarters this year. I wouldn't expect (and there's not) a HUGE difference between the # of runs in the first half vs the second half: by quarter, weve run the ball 53, 45, 54, 64 times. Over 9 games, thats only 1 more rush per game in the 4th quarter compared to quarters 1 and 3, and 2 more times compared to quarter 2. So, were not running it significantly higher in the fourth quarter compared to most of the other quarters.

There is, however, a HUGE difference between our run/pass ratio between the wins and the losses, which I would NOT have expected since the 3 losses were all close games and the only one we were losing at the end of 3 (Mia) we were down by only 3 (13-10). We havent been needing to throw to catch up. Washington we were leading 13-3 at the end of 3. Chi we were leading 10-7. But heres the stats from our wins and losses (subtracting out Aaron Rodgerss runs, just looking at RB carries):

Wins:
Phi: 31 passes/28 rushes, 53/47%
Buf: 29/22, 57/43%
Det: 17/18, 49/51%
Min: 35/20, 64/36%
NYJ: 34/23, 60/40%
Dal: 35/30, 54/46%
Total 181/141, 56/44%

Losses:
Chi: 45/13, 78/22%
Was: 46/13, 78/22%
Mia: 33/17, 67/34%
Total 124/43, 74/26%

In the three losses McCarthy sold out the run and became one-dimensional. The defense did not need to take our running game seriously.

Washington certainly didnt. The few times we ran the ball against them we were running it well. We had 157 yds. Take out Aaron Rodgerss runs, and that drops the total to 127. 71 of those came on one play. Even subtracting that 71 yd run out, we still went 56 yds on 12 carries--we averaged almost 5 yds/carry.

Aaron Rodgers threw for 293 yds and 1 TD, but cleared hot to go after him, the Redskins ended up with 4 sacks and 1 INT. I believe if we had run the ball more to attain a more balanced attack during that game we would have won.

Bottomline for me is I wish we would aim more for a 56/44% passing ratio than 74/26%. Our record isnt as good when we dont have at least a credible run threat to slow down the pass rush.

"Greg C." wrote:



Interesting. I was making a general statement without bothering to think about this season in particular. It really has been an unusual season in some ways.

I'm still far from convinced that the losses this year were largely attributable to the unbalanced offensive attack (I think both of the OT losses were more the result of a Matthews-less defense that was unable to close out the opponent in the fourth quarter), but I can't deny that you've discovered a strong trend that bears watching. Nice work.
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